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A question for you shooters re hearing protection. (Vanity)

Posted on 01/03/2014 9:33:37 AM PST by LouAvul

I often see experienced shooters wearing only ear plugs for hearing protection. I usually double up with plugs and muffs, but when I'm shooting in extreme cold, sometimes it's uncomfortable (not being able to wear the type of head covering I might normally wear).

I'm headed to the range next week to break-in a couple of rifles, a CMP Garand w/CMP ammo and an unfired M1A w/factory ammo. The charts usually circulated say 140 dB at an unprotected ear causes instant damage. The M1A is a 308 at 156.2 dB and the Garand is 30-06 at 158.5 dB.

My plugs are rated at 31 dB. My understanding is that because these figures are logarithmic, I subtract 5 from the 31. The plugs actually only reduce the sound by 26 dB. That reduces the Garand, for example, to 132.5 dB.

Assuming one has the plugs inserted correctly, etc, and assuming one is shooting by himself, exposure to instantaneous sounds at 132.5 dB is safe.

After all, even with the addition of muffs, you only add 5 dB to the total hearing protection anyway.

Any Freeper's input on this subject?


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To: Advil000

Or he could get a “Elmer Fudd” hat. Wear the plugs, put the flaps over the ears then put the muffs on. Problem solved.


41 posted on 01/03/2014 10:52:11 AM PST by defconw (Cibco's my spouse)
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To: LouAvul

My hearing has degraded since I started shooting skeet, 5 stand, and sporting clays. My left ear is worse than my right, which is consistent with shooting, for some reason. Foam plugs have got to be seated well in the ear canal. But nothing will stop the shockwaves conducted through your skull.


42 posted on 01/03/2014 10:52:16 AM PST by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: doorgunner69
show me where he stated either rifle will have a compensator or brake on it. Last I saw, CMP M1 is stock unadorned bare muzzle. M1A comes with basic mil spec flash "hider".

Correct. I used to have a 30-06 field gun with a muzzle brake. Unbelievable how loud it was. I'd have guys from other shooting lanes come over just to make sure I wasn't shooting a 50 BMG, or some such.

43 posted on 01/03/2014 10:53:57 AM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: LouAvul

From wearing both ear plugs and muffs, the next step up is something like a flight line helmet. They have to be able to block both very high dB continual and peak sounds.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 10:58:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: LouAvul

In shooting single-shot pistols and magnum handguns, many with muzzle brakes, I wear both.

Hearing loss is cumulative.


45 posted on 01/03/2014 11:14:57 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: doorgunner69
Yeah, I have been surprised at the slap back from reflected sound more than a few times.

Last winter, I shot some handguns with my brother in-law, who also let me fire his new 50-caliber "Desert Eagle" handgun. He lives on a farm, and we set up our range about 15 yards from an all-metal barn. I neglected to bring my hearing protection, and I could definitely tell that my left ear--the one closest to the barn--was significantly hurt by the reflected sound.

46 posted on 01/03/2014 11:30:07 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: LouAvul
Had a 16" .308 with Miculek brake. Got rid of it and went to a bare 18.5" barrel and am much happier. At least with a .308 I just do not see the need for a brake.

Have to laugh at guys with .223/5.56mm agonizing over what bake to use.....

Probably change my mind with a .338 Lapua though.......

47 posted on 01/03/2014 11:36:20 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Lou L

I do not even take my AR 15 pistols out of the vehicle to shoot at the range if I cannot find a dock at least four docks away from any other shooters. The sound level is actually painful to anyone not behind the weapon wearing good hearing protection.


48 posted on 01/03/2014 11:40:24 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: LouAvul

Check out these electronic muffs:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_0?rh=n%3A3413511%2Ck%3Aelectronic+earmuffs%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A3451704011&sort=reviewrank_authority&keywords=electronic+earmuffs&ie=UTF8&qid=1388779017&rnid=2764058011


49 posted on 01/03/2014 11:58:23 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

I use the Howard Leight Impact. The thing I don’t like about muffs, other than what I’ve already mentioned, shooting in cold weather and all, is that some of my rifles have iron sights which puts the sight plane lower. With my cheek weld, the muffs really bang on the gun stock. It’s not so bad with a scope mounted rifle.


50 posted on 01/03/2014 2:34:37 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: LouAvul
Good advice on hearing protection on this thread. Once you lose it...it does not come back.
I have a constant ringing in my ears...tinnitus I guess...do to too much unprotected discharge...(heh heh heh)


Oh, and Lou...cigarette filters do not work.
51 posted on 01/03/2014 7:29:31 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: LouAvul

After years of research, OSHA has determined that you cannot get anything more than 85 dcb protection. That is the max of plugs and muffs.


52 posted on 01/04/2014 5:14:27 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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