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To: Jonty30
For the vast majority of men, not just here but back in the old country, the pub or tavern was that male space where what you described happened. A loss of your driving privileges leading to unemployment or a stretch in the slam put a real crimp in this long held male culture. However your mention of feminism is not opposing what I stated. I contend that MADD is a product of feminism, as prohibition was of the original suffragettes. So I think we might be on the same page here.
15 posted on 01/01/2014 12:21:34 AM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

We are generally on the same page, but you see it largely limited in adulthood, whereas I see masculinity being curtailed from the womb to the tomb. About the only place left now, just about, are in high risk activities like wing parachuting or keg parties and there is little doubt in my mind that Obamacare will be working to curtail these too.


16 posted on 01/01/2014 12:35:18 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: gusty

One group of guys in our neighborhood has it all figured out. Nearly every day after work, when it is nice, you will find them congregated in “a” driveway...7 to 10 of them depending on the day.

No wives, no kids. They have “family” parties too, on the weekends with the wives and kids. But, the after work hours are only the guys hanging out...they migrate from driveway to driveway. Often, the women and kids will be down the street in someone else’s driveway/garage. In the Winter, they migrate from garage to garage...all are heated, and complete with big screen TV’s. These enterprising guys have made their own traveling “pub” and can simply walk home after a few beers.

This same big group of guys always take their kids out for Halloween trick or treating. They herd the large group of kids around while pulling a little red wagon full of their own “treats”...12 packs of beer...LOL!


17 posted on 01/01/2014 12:58:54 AM PST by garandgal
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