Your patience is to be commended. Just sayin’...
The really pathetic part of this is how many have their heads in the sand on this and treat all such news as inflammatory fear-mongering and refuse to either participate in such threads at all and won’t learn more than Wikipedia or the government informs them. Those that do engage, their ignorance really screams, doesn’t it? I simply didn’t have the patience to engage exDemMom as you did here; she bored me with her authority on ignorance being ‘her training’...
I think you are wiser than I am. No point wasting time on people who strenuously avoid knowing anything! :)