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I was hoping that you good people here could give me a heads up on any problems/pitfalls that I might encounter, along with any recommendations as to what works and what doesn't work. I've done a little research and find that opinions across the interwebs vary but that most are positive about this switch. Any opinions?
1 posted on 12/21/2013 1:10:11 PM PST by Wingy
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To: Wingy

Added to the bang list. Sorry I can’t help. I have never tried what you’re asking about. Good luck.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 1:13:45 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Wingy

Unless you plan on firing it in full auto or dragging it in the mud , I would keep the DI system, the AR piston systems are highly over rated.

If you decide to convert, buy an entire dedicated gas piston upper so when you discover that it’s heavier, more complex and less accurate you can sell it to some one else.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 1:14:38 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Pinging the Gun Talk List to the discussion.


4 posted on 12/21/2013 1:17:29 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Wingy

Some piston ARs have trouble running steel cased ammo.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 1:19:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Wingy

I wouldn’t convert. Conversions are expensive.

Like the other guy said, get a dedicated upper and run them both. That way you don’t lose anything.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 1:23:00 PM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: Wingy

Unless you will be operating in dusty Iraq, why convert?

Even then, why convert?


8 posted on 12/21/2013 1:31:39 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wingy

I have one too.If it Ain’t Broke;Don’t”Fix”it!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 12/21/2013 1:35:00 PM PST by bandleader
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To: Wingy

I think as other posters have said, buy a complete upper. I am a big fan of piston driven systems from the AK to FAL to my latest project where I swaped the 10” 5.56 barrel of a Sig p556 to a 300BLK. I do live in a very dusty environment and have yet to experience any failure on any of the piston systems. Accuracy is not reduced. Good luck!


15 posted on 12/21/2013 1:42:18 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Wingy; humblegunner

I think humblegunner has one of those kits for sale.


17 posted on 12/21/2013 1:44:22 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Wingy; 3boysdad; All
Hey! I've got an AR-15 Question

Me too.
I live in Colorado and don't yet have an AR. I want to get one, though. If I were to drive out of state to get standard capacity magazines for it, would they sell them to me?
3boysdad said I could just go to Murdock's (Or is it, "Murdoch's??) and get them.
Any other input would be helpful. Thanks.
18 posted on 12/21/2013 1:46:12 PM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: Wingy

Ar15.com


21 posted on 12/21/2013 1:52:24 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Wingy

My first experience with the AR15 platform was in the Army with a M16 in 1970. We had problems with fouling then, but the military was using ball type powder them and discouraged the use of lubricants.

Since that time I have done a lot of shooting with AR15’s and I have had no problems with jamming or fouling. I have had a problem with Russian steel ammo ejecting properly.

The gas impingement system works fine with little cleaning if you are using clean burning modern rifle ammo and properly apply the correct lubricant at regular intervals.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 1:58:57 PM PST by jimbobfoster
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To: Wingy

I’m not an AR aficionado but I took an AR armorer’s class in August. The instructor was Front Sight’s armorer who has been working on all the firearms they rent out for several years.

He said there is no advantage to changing what has been field tested to be a good system since the 1960’s. Trying to improve on Eugene Stoner’s AR design is like trying to improve on John Browning’s 1911.


31 posted on 12/21/2013 2:22:27 PM PST by Klaatu Barada Nikto (Liberty is not a Loophole)
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To: Wingy

There’s nothing wrong with the gas system. The piston system is a fad. If you want a piston system, buy a new upper or trade guns.


36 posted on 12/21/2013 2:27:02 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Wingy

I have an Adams Arms upper contracted by Smith and Wesson. It’s a good rifle. It has some advantages.

The good: Bolt and chamber require just a light lube and stay very clean even after firing a couple hundred rounds.

The bad: More parts, more parts to break. Incompatible with other AR-15 parts

Mine shoots steel case fine.

Anyhow, if you have a Colt, you have a fine weapon. Don’t alter it. If you want to try gas piston, get a complete upper.

Adams Arms make complete uppers.
http://www.adamsarms.net/products/uppers

The other gas piston system that I hear is very good is the Osprey. I don’t know if anyone makes complete uppers using the Osprey. If they don’t you could get a solid lower priced upper like Wyndam Weaponry, Stag Arms, Smith and Wesson and then convert it yourself. Here is a review of the Osprey system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STpLZwQ7Qyg


41 posted on 12/21/2013 3:39:32 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Wingy
Any opinions?

Yeah, if you're going to change it, change it to a FAL! (jk) I didn't realize you could convert AR's to piston.

47 posted on 12/21/2013 5:15:08 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Wingy
I knew a Marine Corps master sergeant who shot competitively. He had two AR-15s, one his competition rifle and the other his practice rifle. He shot about 10,000 to 12,000 rounds a year.

He told me that when his competition rifle started losing its accuracy (between 8,000 to 10,000 rounds), he would make it his practice rifle. He would then take his practice rifle and change the barrel and bolt (just the bolt- not the bolt carrier group) and make it his competition rifle. He didn't do anything else. He had one rifle with over a 100,000 rounds on it. So I think a properly maintained AR-15 will last a long time without modification.

65 posted on 12/22/2013 12:02:03 AM PST by fini
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To: Wingy
Just go buy another AR. Then you'll have two.

(Sorry if someone's already said this; too busy to read the whole thread.)

66 posted on 12/22/2013 12:03:24 AM PST by OKSooner ("Like, cosmic, man.")
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To: Wingy

Get a Fail Zero BCG instead.

http://www.failzero.com/buynow/ar-15-products/ar-15-bolt-carrier-group-complete-kit-detail.html


70 posted on 12/22/2013 7:55:41 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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