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To: Heartlander
Does maths exist without human beings to observe it, like gravity? Or have we made it up in order to understand the physical world?

I majored in operations research (a kind of math) at the graduate level and would say that math has always been there...waiting for man to discover it.

There is an equation for everything and every movement...just sitting there...waiting

The question is...who developed it and the reality on which it is based.

Math is not man created...it is man discovered, God created.

One would have to be blind to miss that point.

Discovering the intricacy of math is like discovering a library in a log cabin atop Mt. Everest. One cannot simply conclude that the cabin and library simply evolved.

Someone had to put it there.

The beauty of mathematics is profound proof of God. It is like a magnificent machine discovered on a distant planet.

Such things don't just evolve. They are created.

23 posted on 12/19/2013 5:41:32 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux
There is an equation for everything and every movement...just sitting there...waiting

The equations are descriptive, and do not transcend the phenomena they describe.

As Laplace wrly noted, "Nature laughs at the difficulties of integration."

And as John Wheeler wrote ( paraphrasing) "If you describe the universe with equations and write them all down and put them in a room and tell them to fly, they will not take off and fly. The universe 'flies'."

26 posted on 12/19/2013 5:55:57 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: RoosterRedux
Discovering the intricacy of math is like discovering a library in a log cabin atop Mt. Everest.

I think it's more like discovering a snowflake atop Mt. Everest.

30 posted on 12/19/2013 6:48:10 PM PST by dr_lew
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