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To: centurion316
Let's review class. Wideawake has implied that we have no brains, wideawake being presumably being exempt from this accusation.

Why would somebody tell someone who had no brains to use their brains?

Clearly you've begun with misrepresentation.

a warrant shall not be issued without probable cause

Correct. Therefore any lawful search without a warrant would have to at a minimum achieve that standard.

certain exceptions, including what the courts have called "exigent circumstances"

Precisely. But even in exigent circumstances they have to meet the probable cause standard.

The fugitive was not seen fleeing into the home and there seems to be no evidence of continuing danger.

Continuing danger is a good reason, but not the only one.

If wideawake's logic were to apply, then police could enter and search any property they wished by merely reported that they were looking for a fugitive and that they had "heard" that he or she might be inside the property.

This is also misrepresentation.

If they had entered into this home in search of a fugitive who turned out not to have been there recently or at all, then this would be an open and shut case of home invasion.

But even the complainant admits the fugitive had recently been in the home and if the police had been there earlier they would have got him.

The Gestapo did this on a regular basis

Record time to Godwin's Law of the Internet?

13 posted on 12/11/2013 11:13:06 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I expect that the lady will win in court. Unfortunately, the police behave more and more like the Gestapo every day in this country, cheered on by many in the ersatz law and order class. Disturbing.


14 posted on 12/11/2013 11:18:18 AM PST by centurion316
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To: wideawake
Godwin's "law of the internet" is idiotic meme created by a liberal who was sick of constantly being called a Nazi because he was acting like a Nazi. Actions and behaviors are an objective measures which can be compared to other actions and behaviors, if one is acting like a Nazi they are going to be told so, regardless of some liberal professors attempt at cover.

Nazi's regularly raided houses saying they had information that fugitives were there, when in fact they just wanted to look around. Godwin can shove it, this is the simple truth, and people that want our government to have the same power over us that the Gestapo had over Germans can shove it too.

19 posted on 12/11/2013 11:32:57 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: wideawake

“If they had entered into this home in search of a fugitive who turned out not to have been there recently or at all, then this would be an open and shut case of home invasion.”

Let me get this straight. You’re arguing that whether the police have probable cause or not depends on whether the tips they receive turn out to be right or not?


21 posted on 12/11/2013 11:38:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: wideawake; centurion316
The probable cause the police cited was that a fugitive had entered the home and they were pursuing him.

Fugutive?? Runaway juvenile?

Where did you get they were pursuing him?

The article clearly said they were *searching* for a runaway, not pursuing someone.

26 posted on 12/11/2013 1:13:32 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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