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To: nickcarraway

Thanks.

I must say that this last statement:

“Jozet-Alves agrees. “Everyone who had the chance to work with cuttlefish have seen how amazing and fascinating they are,” she says. “At the same time, working with them is a real challenge to your patience. They are so shy that just making a cuttlefish eat in front of you can take sometimes days or even weeks. But once a cuttlefish gives you its trust, you just enjoy working with them and totally forget the hours waiting that they move out of their shelter!””

Causes the entire experimental set up to be questionable, at least in terms of natural behavior.

The inclusion of Tulving is superfluous and is added only to make some sort of point that is a huge stretch.

As far as the activity observed, that is pretty much the only behavior animals have. The lower, the more so.

I appreciate your posting this and appreciate experiments such as these, but feel ultimately the researchers are not fully cognizant of the significance and use of their studies.


4 posted on 12/10/2013 12:22:47 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

One of the problems us oldsters have is that long term memory is retained, but new short term memory is a bitch. Natural process of age. My long term memory is crystal clear, but last week is a fog...lol


6 posted on 12/10/2013 12:29:16 PM PST by goat granny
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To: ifinnegan; nickcarraway
Thanks for an interesting article that takes our mind off the mess in DC for a few minutes.

I'm not a scientist, but was somewhat surprised that no mention was made of squirrels...who spend most of the fall burying nuts for the winter. IIRC studies have shown that they can remember about 60% of the stashes.

Our view/impression/definition of animal intelligence is changing rapidly. From squirrels solving supposedly "squirrel-proof" bird feeders, to octopi going though elaborate mazes to reach a food reward..they are smarter than previously thought.

Parrots are now believed to have a sense of self-recognition..a trait previously believed only existed in man.

Where I can't go along with the researcher is the idea that cuttlefish have a "sense of time." That's a completely human intellectual construct..

But again..looking at many liberals in elected office..the whole idea of "intelligence" is up for debate.

8 posted on 12/10/2013 12:40:34 PM PST by ken5050 (I still miss Howlin)
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