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To: donmeaker

Do you have any sources, aside from the gospels, that claims Pontius Pilate had Jesus killed for claiming divinity?
***I need to do an oops here. I thought you said, “Do you have any sources, aside from the gospels, that claims Pontius Pilate had OTHERS BESIDES Jesus killed for claiming divinity?”

So I’ll begin addressing your original question. Yes, there are multiple sources asides from the gospels. If you read the book I suggested, you’ll find them. There is one significant source, a circular letter from the Sanhedrin (note that Sanhedrin records themselves were utterly destroyed by the invading Romans) and several other sources cited by Josh McDowell in “Evidence that Demands a Verdict”.


462 posted on 12/08/2013 4:00:27 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

So you admit that sanhedrin records are not available. That is a start.


467 posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:16 PM PST by donmeaker
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To: Kevmo

Lucian of Samosate: Greek satirist later half of 2nd century spoke scornfully of Christ and the Christians but never argued that Jesus never existed. “The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day, the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account...

Of course satire is a form of humor. Satirists would never let facts get in the way of a good joke. Besides, he is no eye witness. He was born after any putative Jesus would be dead. I can hear the satire dripping from his ‘distinguished personage’...


470 posted on 12/08/2013 9:50:34 PM PST by donmeaker
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To: Kevmo
Tacitus alludes to the death of Christ and to the existence of Christians at Rome. See Annals XV,44: But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished with most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also.

But this testimony is not by an eye witness. Rather, he reports the common rumor, years later. If you accept this testimony, you have to accept the term 'enormities' for the early Christians.

474 posted on 12/08/2013 10:56:43 PM PST by donmeaker
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