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To: Lucas McCain
I am very familiar with all the theological mumbo-jumbo, about sin and choice and gifts, etc., etc. People like you spout it endlessly and at the same time rail about superficiality.

That is the type of thing liberals say about this pro-God site, but many contrived things atheists have said about God here example a superficial view of God.

The bottom line is, if someone such as myself, who examines carefully the message of the gospel and then says, “thanks, but no thanks, I honestly don’t believe it,” the result (assuming the Bible is true) is that I will be tortured beyond our ability to comprehend forever without end. I find that impossible to reconcile with the notion of an infinitely loving God. That’s one reason why I have so much trouble believing it.

Your idea is that infinitely loving God precludes eternal justice based upon your life choices here, which life is a test, not wanting Christ because you love sin over Him, and which determines eternity.

. I do understand this is a dilemma, which is part of an aspect of theology called theodicy , but perhaps you allow that evil should be punished, but that eternity is too much even for a Hitler. In which case you must find some way to punish such a one, and think it is just that they simply are killed in the end. Or that only a few are so evil as to be worthy of something more.

I disagree, and being simply toasted in the end hardly is a deterrent to living a life indulging one's lusts. And what Scripture reveals is that this life is a test, and every man is going to live forever somewhere.

While I do not know what the least amount of eternal punishment will be, I do not believe anyone who truly wants what Christ represents will be damned, as they will find the mercy of God in Christ, salvation being in no other. And which does not take much intellect, but a humble and contrite heart.

The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. (Psalms 34:18)

But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. (Luke 8:15)

We are redeemed on Christ's expense and credit, but a soul who effectually choice Christ is implicitly repentant, with a honest heart knowing they have sinned and want cleansing, and a new life in Christ will follow. Those who are not repentant will never effectually believe.

374 posted on 12/06/2013 12:00:02 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

“Your idea is that infinitely loving God precludes eternal justice...”

No, my idea is that eternal justice precludes the notion that poor little ol’ me (and billions of others kinda like me) deserves never ending excruciating pain.


377 posted on 12/06/2013 12:32:22 PM PST by Lucas McCain
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To: daniel1212

“Your idea is that infinitely loving God precludes eternal justice...”

No, my idea is that eternal justice precludes the notion that poor little ol’ me (and billions of others kinda like me) deserves never ending excruciating pain.


378 posted on 12/06/2013 12:32:22 PM PST by Lucas McCain
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