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Compassion at center of meeting on anti-discrimination legislation[Lds state sen. 'hero to gay UT']
BYU Universe ^ | Nov. 26, 2013 | Lucy Schouten

Posted on 12/04/2013 11:29:29 AM PST by Colofornian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipatGHIF4Z0&feature=youtu.be

A group of neighbors and concerned citizens gathered in a home in east Provo Nov. 22 to discuss concerns about proposed anti-discrimination legislation, the so-called “Bathroom bill.”

The citizens oppose the bill, which they believe infringes on their “First Amendment rights” to free exercise of religion by imposing a “sexual rights” mentality on the state of Utah. Many were parents and grandparents who said the bill, if passed, would infringe on children’s safety at school and right to privacy. Utah Sen. Steve Urquhart, a Republican, is sponsoring the bill, which adds onto existing non-discrimination legislation. A law passed in 2009 already forbids discrimination in housing and employment based on sexual orientation in the state of Utah.

The bill itself reads, “It is a discriminatory and prohibited employment practice to deny an employee access to restrooms, shower facilities, or dressing facilities that are consistent with the employee’s gender identity.” Attendees at the cottage meeting were concerned that the proposed bill would add bathrooms, locker rooms and other areas traditionally divided by gender to the list of places where persons of LGBT orientations could act freely according to their lifestyle choices. They also objected to the principle of making gender a choice rather than a biological distinction.

“This bill is just a reinvention of the same threat to marriage,” said Mary Summerhays, who hosted the event. “How can you continue gendered marriage if you make gender a choice?”

Speakers at the event were Stuart Reid, a Utah state senator and Republican from Ogden, and activist Gail Ruzika. Reid said he opposed the bill because it would prevent discrimination based on something society “still considers immoral.” He added that he had seen no cases of such discrimination against LGBT individuals in Utah, and so the bill is not necessary but rather goes against the spirit of religion the Founding Fathers intended for America.

Ruzika called the bill a “gateway” to passage of legislation allowing same-sex marriage, based on similar occurrences in other states. Her presentation was based primarily on the effects the proposed legislation could have on schools and possible dangers to children and women if transgender males began using women’s facilities.

Some attendees said they were concerned they would be labeled “haters” and asked, “Where is your compassion?” when they tried to fight the proposed bill on moral grounds.

Ruzika reminded attendees to go forward with love, as that is the only counter to such accusations. She told of one experience where, after a political rally, a teenage girl who is a lesbian asked her why she hated her. “I told her, ‘I don’t hate you. I love you. It’s because I love you that I’m doing this.’”

Ruzika explained that although their views remained different, she became friends with the girl and her parents after that conversation.

One attendee added, “I have ‘compassion’ on my daughter who would have to use the bathroom with a 45-year-old man (if the bill passed).”

Reid also spoke of the need for compassion. He said during his service as a military chaplain during the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” era, he often comforted gay men who were “crying into (his) shoulder” after being harassed. He said opposing this bill does not mean withholding such compassion.

“This is not about marriage, and it’s not about non-discrimination,” he said. “It’s about societal acceptance.”

BYU student Melanie Tirrell attended the event and brought friends, family members and fellow students. She said she has been involved in such movements for years because she believes people must act to do what benefits society the most.

Reid urged attendees to act quickly to tell their legislators their views as the bill is set to go before the Utah Senate in January. He added that if the bill passes the Senate, it certainly will pass in the House of Representatives.


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: byu; homosexualagenda; sexualorientation; utah
From the BYU article:

A group of neighbors and concerned citizens gathered in a home in east Provo Nov. 22 to discuss concerns about proposed anti-discrimination legislation, the so-called “Bathroom bill.” The citizens oppose the bill, which they believe infringes on their “First Amendment rights” to free exercise of religion by imposing a “sexual rights” mentality on the state of Utah. Many were parents and grandparents who said the bill, if passed, would infringe on children’s safety at school and right to privacy. Utah Sen. Steve Urquhart, a Republican, is sponsoring the bill, which adds onto existing non-discrimination legislation. A law passed in 2009 already forbids discrimination in housing and employment based on sexual orientation in the state of Utah. The bill itself reads, “It is a discriminatory and prohibited employment practice to deny an employee access to restrooms, shower facilities, or dressing facilities that are consistent with the employee’s gender identity.” Attendees at the cottage meeting were concerned that the proposed bill would add bathrooms, locker rooms and other areas traditionally divided by gender to the list of places where persons of LGBT orientations could act freely according to their lifestyle choices. They also objected to the principle of making gender a choice rather than a biological distinction.

(1) Extended kudos to BYU students for holding this "cottage political" discussion -- to encourage acting upon pro-family policies.

(2) Yet, the question needs to be asked: What is Mormon state senator Steve Urquhart -- a Republican -- doing sponsoring a bill that would give men open access to girls' bathrooms, locker rooms, etc???

The article, which mentions Urquhart as a sponsor, doesn't mention Urquhart's Mormonism:

But this 2005 link does:

We are pleased to announce that Steve Urquhart, the majority whip for the Utah House of Representatives, will blog with us for the next two weeks, including the final days of the 2005 legislative session. Steve grew up in Houston and graduated from Williams College and BYU Law School. After working at Morrison & Foerster for two years, he moved to St. George, Utah, where he practices law with two other attorneys. He served a mission in Curitiba, Brazil, and now serves as stake auditor and Sunday School teacher. Steve and his wife Sara Stanley have four children.
Source: Announcing Steve Urquhart, Guest Blogger: February 28, 2005

Urquhart has since moved from the Statehouse to the State Senate, where he serves as a member of the standing Education Committee & member of the Public Education Sub-Committee and co-chairs the Higher Education Sub-Committee.

So as of 2005, Urquhart -- a BYU law school grad & former Lds missionary -- held authorized Mormon church roles of "stake auditor" & "Sunday School teacher."

Hmmm...I wonder if Urquhart has lobbied the Mormon General Authorities to...
...(a) have homosexuals teach Mormon Sunday Schools?
...and (b) encouraged Mormon men to use women's bathrooms @ Lds church facilities -- and vise versa?
What? No? (Oh, this Mormon leader only wants to put children/teens out there at risk in his campaign to redefine the family & to redefine gender)

Note this article -- Op-Ed: Urquhart deserves LGBT praise, but there’s much to be done -- mentions how Mormon Urquhart has "become a hero to gay Utah".

Since Harry Reid is a visiting teacher for the Mormon church, I guess we can label Urquhart the bush-league Republican Harry Reid!

1 posted on 12/04/2013 11:29:29 AM PST by Colofornian
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From the BYU article:

One attendee added, “I have ‘compassion’ on my daughter who would have to use the bathroom with a 45-year-old man (if the bill passed).”

Good response...A 'keeper'

2 posted on 12/04/2013 11:31:57 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

The solution is simple. Bathrooms, showers, and similar facilities should be segregated by plumbing (internal genitalia in one set and external genitalia in the other set of rooms), rather than by “gender identity” or some other fictional construct. The correct answer is to stop pretending that kids can meaningfully identify with whatever sex they choose on a particular day, but sorting by anatomy produces the same result without having yet another fight against with the liberal victim class.


3 posted on 12/04/2013 11:36:22 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
The solution is simple. Bathrooms, showers, and similar facilities should be segregated by plumbing (internal genitalia in one set and external genitalia in the other set of rooms), rather than by “gender identity” or some other fictional construct. The correct answer is to stop pretending that kids can meaningfully identify with whatever sex they choose on a particular day, but sorting by anatomy produces the same result without having yet another fight against with the liberal victim class.

Interesting (& fresh approach) comment.

4 posted on 12/04/2013 11:39:40 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Do you want men sharing the showers with your minor daughter?

That should be the question parents are asked


5 posted on 12/04/2013 11:46:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Do you want men sharing the showers with your minor daughter? That should be the question parents are asked

Yup...

Once the any-gender-choice goes liberals get their way & make
"discrimination"
& "sexual orientation" (wide-open & purposely left undefined)
& "gender-choice of the day" -- as if gender was some "menu flavor of the day"
..."the issue"...
...then that basis applies...
...whether the discussion is...
...bathrooms...
...locker rooms...
...sleeping arrangements on overnight trips...(etc)

6 posted on 12/04/2013 11:58:19 AM PST by Colofornian
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watch the Salt Lake City TV news for a week and you will see how well the state’s “compassionate” approach to illegal immigration has worked out.


7 posted on 12/04/2013 12:10:46 PM PST by utax
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To: Colofornian

The moral and compassionate way to treat those who can’t seem to shake their gender fantasy is to provide them with psychological treatment so that they may enter the real world again, and not to have the rest of the world play along with their fantasy.


8 posted on 12/04/2013 12:34:29 PM PST by unseelie
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