Ethanol free gasoline disappearing fast

gasbuddy.com ^ | 8/5/2013 | Patrick DeHaan

[Paladin2]

Most gas pumps I see have a sticker that says ~”may contain ethanol”, so I can never really tell if it’s gasoline or some “green” EPA kr@p.

[usconservative]

Odd, I'd read a different article here on FR which stated the EPA was relaxing the requirement to include ethanol, partially due to them finally figuring it out that Ethanol does NOTHING to reduce dependence on foreign oil and in fact makes us burn more due to the fact it's an MPG killer.

[metmom]

Cars get better mileage on ethanol free gas.

[taildragger]

The person that develops a centrifuge and or chemical additive to nullify this crap at home will be a wealthy man or women. Unfortunately they may have to open source the plans for said device or additive as Lear Deeder and his minheons will not be happy with going around their Youtopian Paradice as they profit from said machine. It would be even more delicious if it could be printed via a 3D printer :-)...

[smoothsailing]

Feds slash ethanol mandate for gasoline in nod to oil industry

[OneWingedShark]

The person that develops a centrifuge and or chemical additive to nullify this crap at home will be a wealthy man or women.

If it's a separation device, and [near] perfectly separates out the alcohol, maybe he could sell two products. ;)

[CrazyIvan]

Not only that- you can't tell the %. My dealer was having some drive ability problems with some cars and bought a tester for the alc / gas ratio. He has found up to 18% alc. We live in one of the largest corn producing areas of the Midwest so the stuff gets pushed like crazy.

[jjotto]

The usual method of ethanol separation from gasoline is to add water to the mix, wait for the “phase separation”, and then pull the pure gas off the top.

[Chode]

on my way to fill up the truck with cornfree gas right now...

[Gen.Blather]

“Ethanol does NOTHING to reduce dependence on foreign oil and in fact makes us burn more due to the fact it’s an MPG killer.”

Ethanol has nothing to do with reducing foreign oil imports. That was the sales pitch. Because we’re signatories to several trade treaties the US was taken to a world court and accused of subsidizing farmers in violation of a treaty. We lost, because we do subsidize farmers. So, our trading partners were all given permission under the treaty to implement penalty tariffs. And they did, in spades. The trade impact was huge. So, Congress came up with this ethanol defense priority, which was a subsidy to farmers under a different name; but it was allowed under the treaty.

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Signalman :" While ethanol-free fuel is still an available at most gas stations, it’s going to cost more due to the absence of the cheaper ethanol."

Ethanol is NOT CHEAPER !!
By the time you add machinery, fuel for the ag machinery,fertilizers, pesticides ,harvest machinery, etc. it costs $1.29 per $1.00 of ethanol.
Ethanol is cheaper only because it is Government subsidized !!
Any wonder why many of the ethanol producers are mostly Dems ?

[Paladin2]

When buying gas in Iowa, it seems impossible to avoid alcohol.

[oldenuff2no]

I'm using avgas for my saws and small motors now. This crap will toast a chainsaw in short order.

[Dr. Sivana]

In northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin,one can find ethanol-free gasoline pretty easily (Kwik Trip is partial to it, and they sell eggs for 99 cents, Shell has some suchg stations as well), but only in premium grade. For small engines (lawn tractors, weed whackers, snow blowers, etc.) it is pretty much necessary. For older cars and better mileage, it is a good idea, though not necessarily worth the cost premium depending on what you drive.

[Revel]

Not to mention that with Ethanol you loose several MPG, and have more fuel related issues.

[fella]

This guy makes all kind of wild stuff including his own gasoline

[Paladin2]

"I'm using avgas for my saws and small motors now. "

GOOD IDEA!

Is that stuff still full of lead?

[jjotto]

Yep.

Avgas still has lead. No alternative.

Lefties want to ban it anyway as a way to end civil aviation.

Too much lead for cars though, and probably not good for small engines either: lead fouling.

[1010RD]

Who was in charge of the government in 2005?