To: WhatsItAllAbout
"... where the Holy Ghost is present in the person without the laying on of hands."
I never said it wasn't possible.
I just think that
the way we should receive the Holy Spirit, is the way the Bible shows us HOW to do it.
Remember:
" Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus:
and finding certain disciples, he said unto them,Have ye RECEIVED the Holy Ghost since ye believed ?
And they said unto him,We have NOT SO MUCH AS HEARD whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them,Unto WHAT THEN were ye baptized ?
And they said,
Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism OF REPENTANCE, saying unto the people,that they should BELIEVE ON HIM WHICH SHOULD COME AFTER him,that is, ON Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, THEY WERE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had LAID HIS HANDS UPON THEM,the Holy Ghost CAME ON THEM;and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
And all the men were about twelve.
And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months,disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. "
Now, you said:
"... we are all connected at the cellular level with the quantum world.
Believe me when I saythat the quantum would is where the magic/miraculous happens."
I think that is very insightful.
And the "magic/miraculous" connections we have to God, don't necessarily have to be understood in the "HOW",
but that
we have these abilities and connections "through faith in God" under the promises we were given ~ is enough.
" ... that we can comprehend the basic fundamentals of HOW his creation works,and the HOW should never contradict the WHY.
I don't believe it does.
But if the Apostles, who were taught by Christ, who was lead by the Heavenly Father, ~
demonstrated and taught us, that "this is the way to do it" ,
then
who am I to suggest that ~ we should do it
differently?
14 posted on
11/19/2013 8:38:28 PM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
What I have found in my experience is that God has only one “Door” to (Salvation) Christ that we must enter through, but each life is a separate path leading to that “Door”.
Once through the “Door” our name is written in the Book Of Life, and nothing can separate us from the Love of God.
So God in his wisdom tailors his message/outreach to the individual. Giving them every chance to take a step towards the “Door” and once through, then the still small voice of God becomes loud and clear since the Holy Ghost received as a seal and comforter will now interpret God’s will in the individuals’ life.
As to the gifts of the Holy Spirit, they are given as God sees fit. From what I have read, the Gift of Tongues is the least of all the gifts given by the Holy Spirit, but none of the others seem to be prioritized in any specific order.
I think the “Laying On of Hands” is more or less a “Ritual” and not a requirement for receiving Salvation and the Holy Spirit. Similarly the “Water Baptism” is an outward sign of the inward change, but not the source of the actual change which has taken place in the individual due to the Holy Spirit acting in the individual’s Soul.
To: Yosemitest
If you want to see through God’s eyes for 3 minutes and 6 seconds watch the video.
“Molecular Visualizations of DNA” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjPcT1uUZiE
You will see the world at the Micro and Nano levels. According to Roger Penrose, the 2.5 nano meter width of the cells “microtubles” are just the right size for the affects of the quantum world of the atoms to be felt up through the cellular level to our macro brains/consciousness.
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