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1 posted on 11/10/2013 11:41:27 AM PST by Kip Russell
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lock her up in a mental institution FOR OUR safety


2 posted on 11/10/2013 11:42:54 AM PST by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last.

There are a lot on passengers for the DC Ambulance service,that drivers and EMT’s know by sight and name and age.

I remember taking one patient to the hospital; for seizures and on arrival the nurse said he isn’t having a seizure. I said Ernest. The nurse says you aren’t having a seizure, well Ernest went into one of the best seizures I had seen for a while and the nurse ended up cursing me for getting him started. Ernest put on a helluva show in public and people would call. We would show up and say Ernest calm down we will take you and Ernest would usually calm right down. The whole Ambulance service knew Ernest. There were others of course, there always are. We had a woman who called each month when her period came around. We called her Bloody Mary amongst ourselves . And then there was Mumbles.


4 posted on 11/10/2013 11:53:43 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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These are “uncharted waters,”

Not so sure I buy that. For years mentally ill people were set aside to protect them and us. Somewhere in the seventies mentally ill people got the right to be mentally ill and be a burden on everyone else. Hopefully the tide of 30 years of idiotic public policy is turning.

6 posted on 11/10/2013 11:59:12 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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There was a time I’d side with the city on this. But with someone like Obama or Hillary in the White House, I don’t want the government declaring they have Guardianship over a citizen. That’s mighty dangerous.


7 posted on 11/10/2013 12:07:53 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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-——These are “uncharted waters,”——

So the state (taxpayer) will burdened with paying for a fulltime babysitter...?

That will become the new “entitlement” for the mentally ill...

How about putting her in the mental ward on her next trip to the hospital....

Betcha her “spells” decrease after a “flew over the cucko nest” stays...


9 posted on 11/10/2013 12:16:43 PM PST by Popman
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There is a woman out here who used to call county EMS and fake seizures or suicide attempts with annoying regularity. Yes, it even happens here in BF Egypt-she is a former teacher who was diagnosed as bipolar many years ago, and frequently went off her medication to get attention-that is when she called 911.

I do not mean to be unkind-and as a former case manager, I cringe to say it-but she has never had a seizure disorder, or any other physical disability-she is simply as crazy as a s***house rat. In this small county with mostly volunteer services, and the nearest hospital over 45 miles away, her game got old after a couple years, and when she called, the operator would call one of her neighbors to go over to see her instead or sending EMS. Amid a lot of yowling and complaining, the neighbor would take her to the nearest town with a psych facility.

After going there and getting admitted for a suicide attempt a few times, she quit doing that. Maybe someone in DC should try this with the frequent flier mentioned in the article...


10 posted on 11/10/2013 12:25:58 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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Actually, this might be clinical.

People usually make an adjustment to their system so we can get up from a prone position to standing without passing out.

“When we stand up, the blood goes down from the chest to the distensible venous capacitance system below the diaphragm. This fluid shift produces a decrease in venous return, ventricular filling, cardiac output, and blood pressure.

“This gravity-induced drop in blood pressure, detected by arterial baroreceptors in the aortic arch and carotid sinus, triggers a compensatory reflex tachycardia and vasoconstriction that restores normotension in the upright position. This compensatory mechanism is termed a baroreflex; it is mediated by afferent and efferent autonomic peripheral nerves and is integrated in autonomic centers in the brainstem.”

“Drug therapy alone is never adequate. This condition has no cure, symptoms vary in different circumstances, treatment is nonspecific, and aggressive treatment can lead to marked supine hypertension.”

That is, when they stand up, their blood pressure drops so much that they feel faint, but if given drugs to increase their blood pressure, when they lay down, they get high blood pressure.


11 posted on 11/10/2013 12:27:56 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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And so starts the narrative that 1) Health care services must be rationed and 2) Political institutionalization of citizens is acceptable.

I agree this is an extreme case, but that is how they got abortion on demand started - with a very extreme example. The purported reason for Obamacare was to cover all of the people who could not get coverage due to pre-existing conditions. That turned out to be 7,000 people. So, we are spending over a trillion dollars for insurance coverage for 7,000 people and forfeiting our own insurance.

And it started just like this article, with an example so extreme that anyone would agree with it. . .

Please help us keep our liberty by not buying this idiocy. Someone should have done something for this woman long ago. It is pure negligence on the part of the medical and emergency service communities for not determining what was wrong and correcting it.

It’s not like they never had access to her to do a diagnosis, whether mental or physical. Having low blood pressure and not eating regularly would cause those exact symptoms.

This is not to say that is her problem, but it is a possibility.

We must all become alert to the media brainwashing that has been used to coerce us to forfeit our liberties. This is a classic example of the emergence of a new narrative to convince us to give up our liberty voluntarily.


12 posted on 11/10/2013 12:32:12 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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There was a story some time ago about a local Buffalo woman on welfare who called for an ambulance any time she wanted to go visit her family who lived near the hospital.

once there she would miraculously recover and walk to her families house for a visit


21 posted on 11/10/2013 1:13:46 PM PST by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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She’s obviously not paying. In my town you are billed for services of the EMT crew and the ambulance. So who’s paying for this? We are, suckers!


23 posted on 11/10/2013 2:02:27 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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The 911 operators have more important things to worry about.....like if McDonalds runs out of french fries. /s


24 posted on 11/10/2013 2:58:17 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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Martha Rigsby is just being cautious. She doesn’t want to die like her sister Eleanor, the one the Beatles wrote a song about.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 3:07:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Buy her a mobile home, put her in it and park it on a hospital parking lot.


28 posted on 11/10/2013 7:18:59 PM PST by Cementjungle
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Put her in a cabin in the woods. Check up on her next spring.


29 posted on 11/10/2013 7:23:19 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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