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To: brownsfan
A real man would sit down with concerned parties, including coaches/management, and extract whatever apologies and or promises needed to move forward.

I am going back and forth on this one, and I think there's merit to that. He needed to deal with internally first. Unless we learn something drastically different than what we know now, it doesn't sound like he voiced any concern whatsoever to coaches or team leaders before taking this action.

I am sympathetic to this guy because I think he truly got pushed to the edge. I would guess he's a pretty solid person all around. From some of the video I've seen, he looks like a guy who just couldn't adapt to the rough and tumble culture of the NFL and the O-line team. He just didn't look happy. There's no doubt Incognito is a first-class jerk. That doesn't mean this was the ideal way to handle the situation. The concept of bullying and hazing of a very successful large, wealthy, and smart professional athlete (as the left-leaning media is predictably pushing) is off-base. I tend to agree this should have been made an issue internally within the organization, and no one has indicated that was the case.

18 posted on 11/08/2013 12:34:40 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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As a Rams fan (the team from which Incognito came to the Dolphins - and that released him for being a bonehead) this doesn’t surprise me at all. Only surprise is that it took Richie so long to be exposed in Miami.

As a former player, hazing happens on every team to some extent. Who as a freshman was not subjected to it from the seniors on the team? If you wanted it to stop you might have to fight your way through the senior bullies to prove yourself. Eventually everyone gets fed up with it and blows up in some fashion. But this seemed overboard to me - way overboard. Not having seem game film I don’t know if it was prompted by Martin’s inability on the field or just Richie being Richie - a punk. Either way, earning other players’ respect is never going to happen by crying or running away. Knock Richie on his overly large a$$ and then if it doesn’t stop complain to someone. But crying? Hell, they win if you do that.


19 posted on 11/08/2013 12:56:51 PM PST by RonInNaples
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