22% of Sun-like Stars have Earth-sized Planets in the Habitable Zone

universetoday.com ^ | November 4, 2013 | Nancy Atkinson on

[Boogieman]

As I thought, you’re reading it into the text.

[null and void]

Genesis chapter 6.

It says what it says, these “sons of God” were clearly not purely spiritual beings, they had bodies and human compatible (more or less) DNA.

Lot fed and entertained celestial visitors. They clearly had bodies and ate of human food.

Jacob wrestled with an angel who dislocated his hip.

All physical visitors from elsewhere.

[Salamander]

Eeeeee-yewwwwwwwww!

[Boogieman]

There’s a lot of assumptions you are making that aren’t supported by the text, but I can’t be bothered to derail the whole thread just to delineate them.

[null and void]

So show me where any mention of anything in the Western Hemisphere can be found in the Bible. If it’s not in that Bible, can it exist?

[StormEye]

"But Marcy also cautioned that Earth-size planets in Earth-size orbits are not necessarily hospitable to life, even if they orbit in the habitable zone of a star where the temperature is not too hot and not too cold."

It doesn't matter if there are Earth sized planets suitable for human life around distant stars. Why? Because there is no way to get to them.

"Star Trek" is a fantasy. "Warp Drive" is a fantasy. Maybe someday these sorts of things may be invented. But the dumbed down, politically correct, Obama/Marxist-Democrat Party operated educational system now in effect America, doesn't produce the sort of minds necessary to invent such things. Hopefully the future will be different.

[Boogieman]

“If it’s not in that Bible, can it exist?”

*Yawn* You’re not going to get anywhere with that line of argument either. Yes, things can exist that are not mentioned in the Bible. No, I do not base my conclusion that life probably doesn’t exist elsewhere simply on the fact that aliens aren’t mentioned in the Bible.

[Mr. K]

You don’t think we will ever reach the stars?

I actually think we have in the past and have been visited

(yes, I am serious)

[Boogieman]

It’s theoretically possible, but practically speaking, I say it will never happen. Just economically, it would be impossible to justify. We can’t even justify going to Mars, because the expense is too great with no return on our investment. Why would anyone pay a million times more money to go to the stars and get similar returns?

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks skinkinthegrass.

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[SunkenCiv]

Ooooh, interesting!

[Mr. K]

I still think you are thinking too much about the topic in terms of todays technology.

It may be that faster-than-light travel is cheap and easy, we just have not discovered it yet

[Boogieman]

“It may be that faster-than-light travel is cheap and easy, we just have not discovered it yet”

It may also be that purple unicorns live in a candy forest, but we just have not found them yet.

[GreenHornet]

There are numerous Class M planets in the galaxy. Most of them have humanoid inhabitants. And these aliens all speak English. They also have attractive females who catch the eye of Captain Kirk.

However, as soon as you beam down to the planet's surface, you'll find that your phasers and communicators no longer work. Also, you can't get back to your ship until you find the main power source on the planet and knock it out. Fortunately, you will have beamed down to within 15 feet of the main power source.

[Boogieman]

These scientists are only surprised by the discovery of a magnetic field because they are being willfully ignorant. It’s not simply a “moving hydrogen jet”, it is plasma filament, so discovering that such a moving plasma has a magnetic field is really no discovery at all. It could be deduced from simple principles of electromagnetism.

[Errant]

they are being willfully ignorant.

That might be a little strong in light of this cloud being "one of the few such clouds large enough for us to be able measure its magnetic field.” They seem unsure if it will survive impact with even the fringes of the galaxy.

Astronomers think origins of so-called high velocity clouds are mixed, some stemming from burst bubbles in the gas of our Galaxy, some being primordial gas, and some associated with small galaxies our Galaxy’s gravity is shredding from a distance.

I think another source possibility might be plasma jets from accretion disks.

[Errant]

Interesting speed and size numbers on this thing too.

[Boogieman]

My point is, they don’t even need to be able to measure it to know it has a magnetic field. Simple deductive reasoning should tell them that. It’s a plasma. Plasmas are ionized conductors. If they have ever moved anywhere in proximity to a magnetic field, which they must have, since they didn’t originate from a vacuum, then they will have received an electric current due to the principle of induction. A moving electric current produces a magnetic field. QED, a plasma moving in space will have a magnetic field.

That’s a bit simplified, since plasma mechanics actually details how that magnetic field will evolve to contain, shape, and affect the motion of the plasma in different ways as well. Astrophysicists just aren’t generally very interested in thinking about this stuff, even though they know the entire universe is literally filled with plasmas.

[Mr. K]

ok, now that was stupid

[Boogieman]

It was parody. The statement is just as sensible as yours, since I have exactly the same amount of evidence to back it up as you do for yours.