[chrisser]

A lot of people get tickets because the cop will say they didn’t come to a “complete” stop. Hard to fight without any proof. It’s a good revenue generator for the police.

And don't bother trying to fight it. The police are "officers of the court" so they are presumed to be truthful and you are guilty unless you can otherwise prove innocence.

I got a ticket for failure to stop on my own street in front of my house. I stopped at the sign just before an old lady coming from my right. She actually didn't stop, rolled right through the intersection and I had to sit there and wait for her even though I had the right of way. There was no physical way I could have not stopped or I would have ran right into her.

But I'm one of those weirdos who actually stops at the white line and not blocking the sidewalk. I suspect the cop was sitting where he couldn't actually see me where I stopped legally - so he only saw me as I drove through the crosswalk and just assumed I didn't stop where I was supposed to.

I've had my share of tickets when I was younger, and I never had a problem paying them when I knew I was speeding. It's damn frustrating having to pay when you're innocent because the system is set up to make it impossible to contest. Doubly so when the enforcers are the worst violators.

[bgill]

BTDT. It’s your word against theirs and you’re going to lose. The cop was camped out at the intersection for the sole purpose of ticketing people who stopped before the sign rather than at it because a hedge blocked the view when AT the stop sign. Just so happened the hedge was at the city’s civic center, ha, imagine that.

[Star Traveler]

What you say makes a good case for people tracking their own driving with one of their own video cams in their car that tracks all their driving.