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To: Colofornian
I don't understand why you're calling me a glory thief. We agree that the Holy Spirit inspires good works, Jesus is the only way to God and Heaven, and the glory, honor, recognition all belong to Christ. Nobody is justified. We all fall short. We need a Savior, a Redeemer and Christ is it. Christ, as stated by Paul and John and Jesus himself, expects good works of us. He and He alone judges.

As an aside here, 1010, how could one possibly have a multiplicity of "only true gods"...

This is a question that intrigues me. It used to disturb me about the LDS, that they didn't accept the Trinity. Your constant posting about this issue helped me to explore more fully both the Trinity and the LDS belief about the nature of God, His goal for us and our potentiality.

As you know we're made in God's image and likeness. Did you notice that the reference to makers is plural?

Then we read in 1 Corinthians 13:12 NIV - For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

That's the "glass darkly" scripture. In Genesis the making of man in God's or the gods' image is more like an outline, that's the better translation. We then fill that in via our beliefs and actions based on those beliefs (Jefferson got it wrong).

God expects growth, no? That's Christ's example. He grows from grace to grace. He started as a baby and grew up, etc. Christ goes on to state that we'll be full heirs, full heirs with him.

As I read with an open mind, not bringing any preconceived notions to the text I learned for myself that the Trinity is an invention of men. It isn't in the text. It is forced and nonsense. It isn't even a doctrine of salvation. Why must Christians believe it?

228 posted on 10/31/2013 5:07:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; All
the Trinity is an invention of men.

Sorry but both the Bible (Matt. 28:18-20) as well as the Mormon standard works all talk about baptizing in the NAME (singular) -- of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Jesus insist His Composite Name is singular. Why do you insist it's plural?

Jesus even insists that a 2-in-1 marriage is singular ("you shall no longer be two" -- Matt. 19:5-6). If that's the case, why would you insist upon defining marriage as "two" -- when Jesus defines it as "one."

If Jesus is more united with His Father and the Holy Spirit than any marriage...more bonded than any marriage...who are you to say that God is less "one" than any mortal marriage?

237 posted on 11/01/2013 8:18:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
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