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To: 1010RD
Peter is an apostle and we should expect apostles in God’s True Church isn’t derived from a single verse or even a part of a verse, but the entire Bible.

You were expositing 1 Peter 1:1-2. You paused to form conclusions on the text. You mentioned no other texts to support your conclusion. That's what you were being called on - you jumped to a conclusion unsupported by the immediate text which fit your preconceived notion - which is eisegesis, pure and simple. It wasn't the only example of eisegesis in your exposition, just one of the most obvious.

Why would it be eisegesis to expect God’s house not to be a house of order?

This question is troubling. When you come to God's Word with expectations, you're vulnerable to eisegetical analysis of Scripture. We need to come to God's Word without preconceptions and let Him tell us the truth. We need to remember that God doesn't always work the way that humans do. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

223 posted on 10/30/2013 7:08:23 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Enough with politicians, this conservative is only voting for someone with courage and conviction.)
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To: CommerceComet
When you come to God's Word with expectations, you're vulnerable to eisegetical analysis of Scripture. We need to come to God's Word without preconceptions and let Him tell us the truth.

We agree on the above.

Your definition of eisegesis appears wholly subjective as you apply it to my comments. I was not simply expounding on a single text, nor reading into it. Shouldn't we take the Bible as a whole and not simply as a series of disjointed, unconnected verses? The context matters and the entire Bible gives context.

This specific example is perfect for purposes of illustration:

"Peter is an apostle and we should expect apostles in God’s True Church" isn’t derived from a single verse or even a part of a verse, but the entire Bible.

That is something you already know to be true. If you don't then step back and see the Bible as a whole. God's True Church always has a formal hierarchy and a priesthood. In the NT, apostles are replaced as needed. It is silent on that ending or being stopped. That's the reasonable conclusion, then. We should expect apostles and order in God's True Church.

I am not forcing that on the text, that is its plain reading.

Let me ask again a question that you haven't answer, perhaps it is troubling: To whom in Pontus would you deliver the Epistle of Peter?

224 posted on 10/31/2013 4:35:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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