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To: Colofornian; oldbill; Mrs. Don-o

What attracted me to this thread is oldbill’s cogent recognition of you and your posse as religious bigots, deserving the same treatment as any bigot. I’ve demonstrated that the LDS are Christians using the Bible.

You simply don’t agree, but you, nor Mrs. Don-o, nor anyone may define a Christian. That is reserved for God himself and to understand that we use the Holy Bible as a guide.

Anyone who knows Mormons either as friends or family, as I do, knows that they are good people, who raise good children, follow as best as possible Christian principles in their lives and love and obey God. They don’t do what you do, but neither do Catholics. Why all the vitriol, then?

Bigotry. You’re a bigot, a religious bigot and it is plain to all the world. Feel free to disagree, but your condemnation of the LDS condemns only you.


155 posted on 10/25/2013 8:12:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; ejonesie22; All
You: Anyone who knows Mormons either as friends or family, as I do, knows that they are good people, who raise good children, follow as best as possible Christian principles in their lives and love and obey God.

I took the time a few yrs ago to show how there wasn't a single Mormon doctrine out of 20-30 you've expounded upon on FR upon which you were not in alignment...yet you consistently speak of Mormons in the third-person.

Quite curious.

You distance yourself from Mormons, but you actually don't in any way (theologically).

157 posted on 10/25/2013 8:44:07 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 1010RD; reaganaut; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; SZonian; Utah Binger; SENTINEL; P-Marlowe; All
You: Bigot

Bottom line, losing traction on the Biblical front, you have to resort to personal labels & name-calling.

Which actually (ironically) ties in quite nicely with the thread...'cause you see later into the article the name-calling this ex-BYU prof had to endure from fellow "loving" Mormons:

ALL: Note in this thread's article how former BYU Professor Wilder was called every lifestyle in the book:

“I was stupid, a liar, an adulterer, a drug addict, and had committed gross sins,” she said. “Despite the rejection I faced from 30 years of friends, despite the fact that I lost status, position, money, might lose children and our home, I walked away and never feared again.”

Sorry, 1010 ... "loving" people who have loved Prof. Wilder anywhere from one to 30 years don't don Satan's accusatory mask as we see with the above names...

You: I’ve demonstrated that the LDS are Christians using the Bible.

1010, if LDS were "Christians" and many, many, many of the worldwide Christian church members are Christians then guess what? Mormons would be "OK" -- even happy -- when one of their own leaves a so-called Mormon Christian church and lands in another Christian church.

The fact is they are not; I've pinged former Mormons on this post who can reinforce the similar treatment Professor Wilder and her family have rec'd from Lds. The treatment Mormons receive when they find a Christian church belies the "we're Christian, too" argument. That is as plain as daylight.

Bigot...Bigotry. You're a bigot, a religious bigot...

Well, 1010, I love you. That includes loving you with the truth.

You are of tremendous value to our Lord. You don't have to "prove" your worthiness to Him; He already thinks you're so worthy He sent His Son to die for you. I can't imagine any more solid communication than that what He thinks of your great significant value & worthiness!

And that value goes for the kids at home you've educated; and your wife. Will you not let our Lord rescue them, too?

Will you continue to put religiosity in the way of your family's direct personal relationship with our Lord?

If you won't prayerfully consider doing that, then at least take to heart your own words:
If religious tolerance is of such great value to you, then why with this post did you fail to show it? Can you not religiously tolerate me and what you slandered as a "posse?"
If you don't want to encourage what you reference as "religious bigotry," then aren't you encouraging Freepers & lurkers to treat us in a religiously "bigoted" way? Isn't hurling the "B" word 4x in a post a clear depiction that you are intolerant of us and are now encouraging others to follow suit?

How is that consistent? How is that coherent?

158 posted on 10/25/2013 8:57:33 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 1010RD
I would like to exit this thread, if you don't mind. I didn't say anything about LDS people other than that their religious beliefs diverge radically from historic Christianity ---- which the LDS faithful are the first to acknowledge, because they and their own clergy and scholars have always seen this as a plus, "historic Christianity" being, in their view, corrupt.. It's not as if it's any kind of secret, nor (from their point of view) particularly controversial. So be it.

Peace to you.

159 posted on 10/25/2013 9:30:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: 1010RD; Colofornian; oldbill; Mrs. Don-o
That is reserved for God himself and to understand that we use the Holy Bible as a guide.

No lds don't - they largely reject the bible because they claim all the plain and precious parts have been removed as well as question the 'translation'. So please spare us the bogus claim of using the bible as a 'guide'.

Anyone who knows Mormons either as friends or family, as I do, knows that they are good people, who raise good children, follow as best as possible Christian principles in their lives and love and obey God.

Jesus stated none are 'good'. Doing nice things won't qualify you for heaven or forgive your sins. None of the acts you cite will earn salvation.

Bigotry. You’re a bigot, a religious bigot and it is plain to all the world. Feel free to disagree, but your condemnation of the LDS condemns only you.

Yes, the shrill cry of one who is ignorant of the facts. Don't look behind the curtain, only 80,000 lds missionaries going around and trying to convince Christians that their church are in apostasy, that they don't provide salvation and that lds are the only true saved ones. Hypocrisy 1010 is owned by you on this 'bigot' issue.

161 posted on 10/25/2013 9:41:37 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: 1010RD
Yet you will not join them or you disavow your membership. Say all you will(and you do), rail against the wind, but that speaks far more than any bilge you may post...
171 posted on 10/25/2013 1:24:30 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: 1010RD
I’ve demonstrated that the LDS are Christians using the Bible.

Anyone who knows Mormons either as friends or family, as I do, knows that they are good people, who raise good children, follow as best as possible Christian principles in their lives and love and obey God.

Thank you for your thoughts, honesty, and integrity.

My Witness for Jesus Christ

Those who accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and His atonement...who take His name upon them willingly as a matter of personal choice, and then seek to follow Him and take His image upon them as a result of their acceptance of His atonement and their love for Him...are Christians.

173 posted on 10/25/2013 10:23:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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