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Bullying Football Team: Did the Coach Go Overboard in 91-0 Win?
webpronews.com ^ | 10/23/2013 | Erika Watts

Posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by massmike

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To: Publius Valerius
If I wanted to, I could pound the people I play with and clobber them.

I can agree with that. As adults, we often play golf with acquaintances who are more skilled than us. We usually learn from the better players and everyone is competing against themselves, not each other.
I also agree that grade school kids should learn about sportsmanship and fair play. However when they get to high school and college, they should also learn the value of teamwork and competition.

101 posted on 10/23/2013 9:05:19 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: dfwgator
"Injuries occur when you don’t go all out."

Exactly. My daughters soccer team dominated the league for a couple years. In the middle of the third year the higher ups started making demands on the coach. Telling him to make the girls "play less hard", "not to kick the ball with their favored foot" etc.

102 posted on 10/23/2013 9:06:17 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Vigilanteman

No mercy rule in football at the high school level. I was on the receiving end of a 56 -0 loss. I would have been more humiliated had we quit.

And that loss still makes me a little sick. I never, ever, will feel that way again.


103 posted on 10/23/2013 9:07:33 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I guess you couldn’t have been bothered to read my first post, when I said that this wasn’t applicable here because the coach took out the starters in the first quarter.

That’s ok. I can’t expect you to read everything. It’s hard.


104 posted on 10/23/2013 9:07:48 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: massmike

The people at Western Hills High School should stop crying. at least they didn’t take a whipping like Sylvia High School did on November 16, 1927. Haven High took them to the woodshed and laid 256 points on them. That’s the all-time record at any level of football. If Western Hills had played just a little bit of defense, they may have trimmed a few points of their drubbing. Let that be a hard learned lesson to them. Take the field Friday night and do something about it.


105 posted on 10/23/2013 9:09:33 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: The South Texan

I remember Dallas Carter well.. it was one of the hardest teams for us (Permian Panthers) to play against (back in the 80’s)..

Guess times have changed :/


106 posted on 10/23/2013 9:14:41 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: The South Texan

Actually (OT), I also remember one of the Dallas teams coming to our home field (I think it was Trinity), and one of the students was killed on the way (not going into details, but if you are from around there, you will know).. The team chose to play anyway, and (understandably) they lost.


107 posted on 10/23/2013 9:17:07 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: al_c

What is the purpose of a high school football game? Think about it for a minute. Does a team spend more time practicing or playing opponents?Then, which is more important: practicing or playing? Where are you going to be able to have the biggest impact on forming a young person’s character? Practice is way more important. But, do the parents come to practice or the game? A game is like a test in a class. The purpose of the game is to check on the validity of the teaching during practice. There are moments in games where almost mystical things happen, and those are great. The purpose of the game is to validate the teaching that goes on in practice. The purpose of the game is not to rub your opponent’s nose in the dirt. If that’s the case, then take off the pads and let’s have a brawl. We’ll see who the toughest are with no rules or pads. High school sports is to develop character. The kids in high school, at least where I live, don’t go to the games if they aren’t on the team. What does that show? I think some teams are so big because then there will be more spectators. I don’t blame this coach. He’s doing his job. We need to step back and take a look at high school sports in this country. My buddy was the best athlete to ever come out of my small population state. He received a scholarship to play football at a PAC 10 university. He ended up selling plumbing. Now, there’s nothing wrong with selling plumbing as a job, but he sure spent a lot of time and injuries to wind up doing that. And, he died young. Beware of people who try to make money off your kid.


108 posted on 10/23/2013 9:18:09 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: The South Texan

Minor correction: the 4A/5A boundary is 1000 high school students. My wife’s 4A is @ 996 this year. Also, the classification is only changed after two years across the boundary to prevent bouncing back and forth between classes for the borderline schools.


109 posted on 10/23/2013 9:20:47 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You’ve convinced me with such well thought out reasoning.

Everyone should be mediocre in whatever we do so nobody wins.

Of course mediocre is truly exceptional when compared to the truly incompetent.

Let’s all strive to be truly incompetent so nobody gets their feeling hurt.


110 posted on 10/23/2013 9:24:43 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: massmike
As a former coach, would I run up the score? No. By running up the score, that means I'm not going toss 30 bombs down the field when I'm up 40. I'm going to run the ball, control the clock, and put the backups in.

If the other team can't stop the run and stop the backups, well that sucks to be them. I couldn't tell my players to quit.

The bullying complaint is BS, and is frankly embarrassing to the kids on the other team. If that was my dad, I would haven't been happy about it at all. It's salt in the wound.

111 posted on 10/23/2013 9:28:48 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: dfwgator
No. If you don’t want a team to beat you 91-0, then don’t suck.

LOL. Blunt, but true.

That must be one fouled up program. Even our freshman teams that played other teams JV teams didn't lose that badly.

112 posted on 10/23/2013 9:31:05 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Responsibility2nd
How much does "strength of schedule" count? Here are the state rankings for 4A in Texas as of this week (top 10):

  1. Argyle (6-0)
  2. Graham (6-0)
  3. Gilmer (6-0)
  4. Stephenville (4-1)
  5. Kilgore (5-0)
  6. Celina (6-0)
  7. Gainesville (5-0)
  8. West Orange-Stark (4-1)
  9. Carthage (5-1)
  10. Fairfield (6-0)

Notice there are three teams with losses in the top ten. Now consider that there are 5 more undefeated teams in slots 11-20 on the list. Finally, team #40 this week, Huffman-Hargrave, is 4-0.

113 posted on 10/23/2013 9:32:01 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan
That's the 3A rankings. Here's the 4A...

1 Aledo (6-0)

2 Whitehouse (6-0)

3 SA Brennan (7-0)

4 Cedar Park (6-1)

5 Humble Summer Creek (6-0)

6 Denton Guyer (4-2)

7 Texas City (6-0)

8 Highland Park (5-1)

9 Wolfforth Frenship (6-0)

10 CC Calallen (5-0)

Aledo beat number 8 Highland Park 44-3 the first game of the year.

114 posted on 10/23/2013 9:44:52 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: IMR 4350

Sorry for over estimating your intelligence. I”ll never make that mistake again...you have proven totally incapable of reasoning or reading comprehension. Not a single syllable of your babbling makes any sense whatsoever....


115 posted on 10/23/2013 9:47:06 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Texican72; The South Texan

Oops, my bad. Everything I was saying to both of you about 4A was really about 3A. Duh.


116 posted on 10/23/2013 10:06:17 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Vigilanteman

“Mercy rules” make more sense for baseball than football. Baseball can continue on and on forever, if the defense can’t make an out, so a mercy rule limits game time to something reasonable. Football always ends after the same amount of game time.


117 posted on 10/23/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by dangus
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To: thefactor

What was the score at the end of the 1st qtr? Must have been obscene enough for the first string to be pulled and the coach to ask for the clock to keep running. Sheesh, grow up and play some D. That’s how you avert a similar beating.


118 posted on 10/23/2013 10:52:50 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

That’s only in the playoffs in 3a, 4a, and 5a.


119 posted on 10/23/2013 11:06:57 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: 5thGenTexan
Enrollment for 5a is 2090 and up. 4a is 1005 to 2089. 3a is 450 to 1004. 2a is 200 to 449. 1a is 199 and below. Six-man is 100 and below.

http://www.uiltexas.org/files/alignments/Conference_Cutoff_Numbers_2012.pdf

120 posted on 10/23/2013 11:15:06 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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