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EPA's 'unprecedented' power grab for private property
American Thinker ^ | 10/19/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 10/19/2013 9:20:20 AM PDT by rktman

Two Republican House members have sent a letter to the EPA questioning new rules being formulated that would give the EPA sweeping authority over streams and wetlands on private property.

The EPA is justifying the rules by saying it's part of its mandate to enforce the Clean Water Act. But Reps. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah), both ranking members of the Science and Technology Committee, doubt the EPA's science in justifying the regulations and want the agency to slow down and get other opinions.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: biggov; cleanwateract; ecowackos; epaoutofcontrol; privateproperty; streams; wetlands
Response to house members: "You'll get them when we damn well feel like giving them to you. If at all. Don't like it? Call the king and he'll set your sorry butts straight."
1 posted on 10/19/2013 9:20:20 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Yeah, keep holding the Do Nothing hearings and send out requests to appear. Keep listening to the lies and having them plead the fifth, if they appear at all.

Message from Acirema to our so-called representatives - WE DON’T CARE. TALK TO US AFTER YOU ARREST SOMEBODY.

The Bastille will be stormed and the guillotine will sing again. Your fault, not ours.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 9:26:27 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: rktman
The Pine Tree Riot

In 1722, the New Hampshire General Court passed a law making it illegal to cut down any white pine trees larger than 12 inches in diameter. These trees were reserved for the Royal Navy and were to be used for masts for His Majesty’s fleet. This law meant that the settlers could not cut any white pines unless they first had the Deputy Surveyor come to score the King’s trees with a broad arrow mark. The settlers then had to pay a considerable sum of money to obtain a royal license to cut the rest of the white pines from their own land. To say this made it inconvenient for building by colonists is an understatement.
3 posted on 10/19/2013 9:27:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman

TOOLS OF THE TYRANT!!!


4 posted on 10/19/2013 9:29:58 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: rktman

Apparently these House members didn’t get the memo that there’s been a coup and the Congress is now subservient to the unelected beauracracy i.e. EPA.


5 posted on 10/19/2013 9:47:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rktman; All

The Founding States made Sections 1-3 of Article I, the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, evidently a good place to hide them from everybody, to clarifiy that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress. So as I’ve ranted in related threads, Congress has a monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not imo.

So the only reason that I can figure that private property owners relutantly ask, “How high?” when the constitutionally undefined EPA shouts “Jump!,” is that property owners are too lazy to read the Constitution to get non-elected EPA bureaucrats off of their backs. So constitutionally ignorant property owners deserve to get swallowed by so-called social Darwinism as far as I’m concerned.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: rktman
The EPA is justifying the rules by saying it's part of its mandate to enforce the Clean Water Act.

How dare the EPA decide what it's mandate is? Federal bureaucracies are supposedly in business to work the will of the voters through their elected representatives, not to decide their own powers or act on their own decisions. The GOP has had how many Congressional majorities now to curb the EPA since 1972?

But Reps. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah)...want the agency to slow down and get other opinions.

The best the GOP can do is beg the EPA "to slow down and get other opinions". Is there no one with enough fortitude to call for the EPA to either drastically reduce it's size, ambition and lust for power or face abolition? Does the EPA have incriminating pictures of every member of Congress?
7 posted on 10/19/2013 10:16:35 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Amendment10

Who has the huge sums of money to deal with these self appointed/annointed asshats? Even if you win it’s gonna cost you a lot.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 10:22:22 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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9 posted on 10/19/2013 10:23:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Somebody must have video.


10 posted on 10/19/2013 10:23:33 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: rktman

According to the US court of appeals, not having the resources to continue to fight should qualify you for a win. At least that’s what they say about Affirmative action.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959958/posts


11 posted on 10/19/2013 10:26:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Donate here!

Let's finish this Thon quickly
so Jim can fully recover without
hosting the fundraiser for two months :)
Thank you!!

12 posted on 10/19/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Amendment10
You can seek legislative relief but most often it will be judicial relief, which is the case in this particular issue.

These regs were in place for 30 years but were stuck down over the word "navigable"

Then a second court decision conflicted with the first court decision. So nobody really knows what the regs are, which is worse than the regs themselves.

Myself, it seems all to obvious because I was from west Texas and have a lot of knowledge of intermittent or seasonal streams and playas.

13 posted on 10/19/2013 10:42:14 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

What do you think the whole NSA comprehensive dossier on every American is about?


14 posted on 10/19/2013 10:43:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: rktman

This is the same EPA that wants us all using mercury gas filled lamps in our homes
I’ve heard for years that they come onto people’s property find a puddle and call it ‘wetlAnds ‘. And then you can’t ever touch it or you might hurt a endangered rat or flea or Mouse or ant or fish or something
Geezh! Gestapo in green alert!


15 posted on 10/19/2013 11:26:20 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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It is only a ‘pretending to do something about it,’ letter. Full of exclamation marks.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 11:41:51 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: rktman

This is the same EPA that wants us all using mercury gas filled lamps in our homes
I’ve heard for years that they come onto people’s property find a puddle and call it ‘wetlAnds ‘. And then you can’t ever touch it or you might hurt a endangered rat or flea or Mouse or ant or fish or something
Geezh! Gestapo in green alert!


17 posted on 10/19/2013 9:05:33 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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