Posted on 10/16/2013 12:06:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
I thought that all revenue bills had to start first in the House of Reps...
Is Reid's move unconstitutional?
We should be so lucky. Then we get Cantor, the lady in waiting. That will be
even worse.
0bamacare is said to be unconstitutional due precisely to that issue.
Fat lot of difference it makes.
I know and I realize it won’t happen, but just think of the ratings for cable news if it did. The ads they could sell!
The House will just “pretend” that they came up with the bill, and it will be all good.
I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but that's all it would take to satisfy the language of the Constitution.
Constitution? Laws? You must be mistaken. This is the Communist States of America, soon to be destroyed. Khrushchev was right - the communists will take over without firing a shot!
The Constitution was written in Olde English over a hundred years ago. Nobody can understand it.
If all vote no, then no. But the RINO’s will not vote no. They will stampede
to vote yes.
Even if there were, there would be little they could do once the bill was brought up to a House vote by Boehner. Once that happens, only around 20 Republican votes would be needed to pass it - and at this point it is all but guaranteed that the House has 20 Republicans who would pass it regardless of what Heritage and Club for Growth tells them.
When I heard about that I immediately knew it was a demonstration to Boehner & McConnell about what would happen on a larger scale if the usurper's agenda were thwarted in any way. Serfdom here we are.
“Is Reid’s move unconstitutional?”
No. The Constitutional power of the purse was given to the rats by the House, by not forcing a required yearly budget from the Senate. Instead the House allowed CR’s for the last 4 years to be common place. Pls correct me if I am wrong. This is my understanding.
It’s shocking how bad a man our President has turned out to be. You know, you sit back and say, “I may not agree with what you do, but you’re a good person.”, to most of the people you disagree with in life.
But not this guy. He really is a bad person. To the core.
This package is not a revenue bill. It does not change the Internal Revenue Code. It’s a spending bill. There is a difference.
Article 1, Section 7 states “All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other bills.” To my thinking “raising revenue” means imposing taxes, fees, duties, etc. It does not mean spending monies. It does not mean increasing the debt limit. Therefore, it is irrelevant which chamber this bill originated in (unless it raises revenue).
Spending bills can originate in the Senate; bills “raising revenue” cannot.
That is no longer the case.
Many of us realized that back in ‘08 before he was elected the first time.
Frankly, I thought he was more of an empty suit back then.
It's a done deal. It was over in 2008. Finalization will come with The Hildabeast. I seriously feel it may be best to leave this country will you still can.
That would require some amount of shame. Something Boehner has none of.
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