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Senate to vote first... Don't all revenue bill start first in the House?
10/16/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 10/16/2013 12:06:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

I thought that all revenue bills had to start first in the House of Reps...

Is Reid's move unconstitutional?


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KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; democrats; elections; mcconnell; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 10/16/2013 12:06:54 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What say you?


2 posted on 10/16/2013 12:07:26 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Already posted

:D

3 posted on 10/16/2013 12:08:24 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

And what if it fails in the hose at around 11:00 pm tonight?

Now, that would be a show worth watching.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 12:08:25 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

That’s just that silly Constitution, it also says they are supposed to have a budget EVERY year.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 12:09:28 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Is Reid's move unconstitutional?

Of course it is. Like anyone in Washington cares, though.

6 posted on 10/16/2013 12:09:33 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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Like Hilary says: What Difference does it make.

Nothing these turds have done in the last 5 years has been Constitutional.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 12:11:12 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: jimbo807
I hope there is a handful of counter insurgent, closet TPE GOPers who are in line with Cruz/Lee that help us go into extra innings and show the world that there is enough money to pay or bills, without this phony crisis...

But, alas...

8 posted on 10/16/2013 12:11:51 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The senate or the president can send a proposed bill or budget or can rewrite/modify bills sent from the house back to the house for consideration but approval or disapproval and final say over what the bill will say lies solely with the house.

The house can modify the latest sellout by the senate GOP and chuck it back to the senate for approval or disapproval.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 12:12:55 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: jimbo807

It won’t fail in the house because Bonehead and Cantor have worked
a bad deal with Pelosi. With Rat support, Bonehead will get the Rat votes
He needs to pass it.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 12:13:15 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Constitution? Constitution? We don need no stink'n Constitution!
11 posted on 10/16/2013 12:16:02 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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Maybe. We’ll see. I’m rooting for a last minute firebombing of the deal. That would be priceless. We’d all wake up tomorrow and the world will have ended while we were sleeping. LOL


12 posted on 10/16/2013 12:18:05 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: tennmountainman

If he passes a budget deal that is not supported by the majority of his own caucus, I expect Boehner will resign his speakership in the next few days rather than have his caucus oust him after his capitulation to the Dems.


13 posted on 10/16/2013 12:18:57 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If all GOP House members vote NO, will the bill pass?


14 posted on 10/16/2013 12:21:11 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Yes and so was Obamacare. If the GOP leadership had any balls, the response would be ... any and all revenue bills MUST come from the House as per the Constitution. Since Mr. Reid is attempting an unconstitutional power play, the bill will NOT be accepted.


15 posted on 10/16/2013 12:21:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 1Old Pro

No, if no Republicans voted for it, it would not pass. But the chances of 0 House Republicans voting to pass it are slim to none. Remember, out of all the Republicans that initially started this showdown, 12 of them backed down entirely within one day of the gov’t shutdown. Many other House Republicans are not representing the Tea Party at all and so the probability that the Republicans who are not specifically representing the Tea Party would all vote No is rather low at best.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: 1Old Pro

No, it wouldn’t, but all the House Republicans won’t vote ‘no’.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 12:28:13 PM PDT by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: jimbo807
And what if it fails in the hose at around 11:00 pm tonight?

Now, that would be a show worth watching.


Yes it would.

All I wanted from this shut down was for everyone in government to have to use obamacare just like the folks paying their salaries. And a delay of a year because the rollout of obamacare is so screwed up.

There is no excuse good enough to me for Republicans to cave without achieving either one of these things.
They're not the answer to the problem and so are part of the problem.
18 posted on 10/16/2013 12:28:47 PM PDT by novemberslady
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Don’t get me wrong, I hoping it does not pass either. But the DC elites
will do whatever it takes to pass it. And if that means Bonehead and Cantor
bypassing conservatives and getting rat votes to pass it, that is what they
will do. After all, with the exception of several handful of conservatives, it’s
one big fraternity in DC.


19 posted on 10/16/2013 12:31:54 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: novemberslady

Sad to watch them give in so easily, but they did at least engage in a bit of brinksmanship this time.

I think the EBT snafu is what really made up their mind. That was a shot across the bow and an indication of how far Obama would go if they pushed him on this.

In the end, they feared what the madman would do. So they folded.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 12:32:32 PM PDT by jimbo807
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