Five reasons why government shutdown points to breakup of U.S.

Transition Network ^ | 10-11-13 | Erik Curren

[Texan5]

He’s conveniently forgotten that half of his ancestors-and mine-the Spaniards-sailed over here with Cortez looking for treasure to enrich the Spanish crown, killed as many of our other ancestors-the Native Americans-as he and his army could find, stole their stuff, then captured, carried off and enslaved the rest, kept on looting-and fathered hundreds/thousands of kids on Native women-starting with Cortez himself, who fathered at least one son with his Native interpreter, Malinche-and opened the door for all the malcontents in Spain, like my Basque ancestors to come over here and spread all over the Southwest and beyond.

And so the brand new ethnic group of the New World was created, and all of us who are Latino/Hispanic belong to it-so who is/was captive to whom? And it looks a lot like the “homeland” he’s talking about was stolen by the Spaniards from the Indians/Native Americans, who had dibs on it ever since they got here about 15 thousand years ago, give or take a hundred or so.

If he thinks Latinos are hostages who want their homeland back, then maybe he ought to put together a return-to-Spain movement because that is where the Spanish half is-I don’t really think the Natives would want to part with their relatives 500 years after the fact, though-the man is an idiot...

[fr_freak]

Wall off California, and the Democrat-run bastions like the Northeast and Midwest Inner-cities. Force them to go it alone.

When the supplies of Food, gas, water, and electricity from America’s Red Counties stops, it will be like World War Z in those places.

Not that I believe that the commies running the place would do this in any rational manner, but California has all the resources it needs to be fully self-sufficient. In fact, if California were walled off, a number of red states in the interior would be hurting for food. What would most likely happen if California became isolated, is that LA and SF would disintegrate in accordance with leftist policies, after which the remainder of the state (which is mostly red) would establish its own policies and make use of those resources. The remaining Americans here would make some sort of peace with the hordes of Mexicans and we would become an Anglo-Spanish hybrid (not as honorable as the old USA, but our women would be smoking hot).

[ANGGAPO]

Perhaps, but the only way we can come apart is if we all want to. We need less government, not more. This country has always squabbled over everything, Republics like ours always do, and have. This Obama created mess will be solved, just don't ever give up on the USA. We need less government intrusion into our lives, not more. And last, there is no free stuff, never has been because someone always has to pay for it.

[mad_as_he$$]

All of the “wronged” Hispanics have forgotten the Spanish angle - conveniently.

[usconservative]

This whole problem can be much more easily solved with nothing more than tar, feathers, rope, and a hanging party.

Hang 'em all, hang 'em high. Every filthy last one of 'em.

Then we hold NEW elections and start over. This time those running for office WILL KNOW the price of their becoming corrupt and failing to serve WE THE PEOPLE.

I'll bet the results will much different second time around.

[ANGGAPO]

Just for conversation, I did WWII with a bunch of Texans. It was really a good ride though, because of them. Nice people and 1000% American. I am sure that they will do the right thing.

[SgtHooper]

Secession does not mean the state has to give up the Constitution, they can adopt the same and start their own union of states. “Form a more perfect union” of red states! Let the rat states die on the vine.

[SgtHooper]

Secession does not mean the state has to give up the Constitution, they can adopt the same and start their own union of states. “Form a more perfect union” of red states! Let the rat states die on the vine.

[Texan5]

“forgotten the Spanish angle” Apparently, folks in Mexico know the Spanish weren’t nice guys-my first husband and I traveled in Mexico a lot-and I can’t remember seeing any statues of Cortez in the public squares or parks...

[mad_as_he$$]

lol..never thought about that1 But I can’t remember seeing one either.

[WhiskeyX]

Secession means exactly that, “to give up the Constitution”, no matter what you replace it with and no matter how similar it is to the Constitution you abrogated and destroyed to dismember the Union.

U.S. Constitution...Section 3 - New States. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

U.S. Constitution...Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;....

[central_va]

What does secession have to do with death and war?

[central_va]

"I love the Union and the Constitution," he said, "but I would rather leave the Union with the Constitution than remain in the Union without it."

Jeff Davis, President CSA.

[RKBA Democrat]

“Revolution is Duty of the People.”

Would you be so kind as to define what is meant by: “revolution.”

[RKBA Democrat]

“What does secession have to do with death and war?”

Historically speaking, a lot.

[RKBA Democrat]

“What does secession have to do with death and war?”

Historically speaking, a lot.

[WhiskeyX]

Jefferson Davis was a traitor to the Republic and its citizens, and so is any person who aids and gives comfort to the Communist efforts to dismember the United States of America and/or abrogate the U.S. Constitution we are sworn by oath to protect and defend.

[Kartographer]

Did you listen to the Judge? He was very clear and if you couldn’t understand him I doubt that I could explain it better or in a way you could understand.

[RKBA Democrat]

K: I did listen. Especially to the last 10 seconds where he noted “how do you alter or abolish if you have a choice between BO and John McCain?”

I think that in general, the Judge is a good guy, but this was just more pretty words without commitment, more hyperbole amounting to nothing.

[VRWC For Truth]

The Democrat Party Plantation needs slaves to survive. They will not go quietly.