Posted on 10/03/2013 9:58:30 AM PDT by jilliane
If the site is hosted internally, then what costs are there to leave the site up with no changes? If it's externally hosted then hosting fees are paid for in advance
(Excerpt) Read more at nps.gov ...
It’s Valerie Jarrett/Chicago thug tactics-—I can just hear her and Obama yucking it up in the Oval Office-—”We’ll make these ignorant buffoons hurt and realize just how much they depend on the government!”
Do they run their own servers, or have they contracted with a hosting company? Hosting services are usually paid in advance.
Awesome picture!
Websites do not require staff if they have paid outsourced hosting (technical hardware failures), and the instances of failure on an information type site, even if hosted internally, is less than .01% - the redirect was not required, it was a power play.
haaa Barrycade ...the websites are an example of technical Barrycades.
Exactly right
It’s down because Obama is a Chicago thug (to the extent that he is in any way connected to this great country). It’s down so that Obama and his complicit media can blame republicans for it being down, even though government employees did extra work to take the site down purely as a publicity stunt.
Supposedly is the right word...they count on a technical lack of knowledge. There is no real “oversight” of an information site...sure, the servers can have issues but it’s rare and if they are paying for outsourced hosting, then they outsource the technical maintenance.
Excellent point. If the grant was provided by Canon, then they have extorted that funding and are not delivering the service. Canon has legal action against the govt. as grants exist to ensure funding.
Exactly as I said...and if they run their own webservers then a 404 error should be delivered if something fails - they pulled the plug on perfectly functioning and funded sites requiring nothing to deliver simple information ....as another person commented,
PEOPLE MUST UNDERSTAND THE SITES ARE STILL THERE AND STILL AVAILABLE TO BE SEEN, THEY JUST AREN’T ALLOWING THE SITES TO BE SEEN. THEY REDIRECTED THE VIEWS TO GO TO ANOTHER SITE TO BE JERKS
Wow, now you are saying there should be legal action over a 404 error? Calm down and don’t be so over the top for a simple web site. There’s 100 ways to find whatever you’d get out of nps.gov.
I believe the govt. has sufficient resources to host the myriad of web servers they provide on their own hardware and do not put each and every one one some hosting service myself. They do probably contract the staff to run the data center, and those people are all at home. So if anything goes wrong, and the server does not work, the basic home page will give an error. Would you rather have had them shut it down entirely, or put such a notice on each and every page?
I don’t think you have much of a grasp of web services beyond a few simple pages on some small site.
I also don’t doubt that Obama would filter down an order to shut off all web servers. USA people have become lovers of trite glitz and will stamp their feet and cry if you take away their pretty web sites. No matter the content, which as I said right off, exists in better forms outside of govt. servers.
Had to go to CSPAN (a non-governmental, privately funded entity) to see what’s up- they’re passing funding for NG and reservists- got 35 Dem votes so far.
They had Matt Fuller of Rollcall on and he said “Republicans are winning” the PR on these mini-bills.
But CSPAN is no replacement for the House Clerk’s floor summary page!
Since I’ve built websites for large organizations with thousands of pages and millions of monthly site visitors for more than a decade, I’d say my grasp of web services is fine for this discussion. What’s your grasp look like?
No one said there should be legal action over 404 - Canon has a legal right to have their grant money properly stewarded. That is the issue. If you were the donor, you’d understand.
The point isn’t where we can dig to find info, the point is they had no right to pull down fully funded sites, cams, etc. under the false pretense of lack of funding.
As for what I’d rather see, 404 messages are rendered automatically and can contain any content the site owner chooses, therefore, should one be rendered, the 404 page should be informational with a link to doi.gov if that’s the ultimate place to go should there be a failure.
There was no reason to redirect a perfectly functioning site.
So you can feel their pain...or your pain or something....
I bet if you called NPR they could arrange for story of outrage[!!] and disappointment how you surfed for hours only to be locked,,,LOCKED[!!] out by those ebil wepubwiccans.
LOL!
They go from serious like the barrycades and guards to this silly crapola.
Maybe they needed all hands on deck to fix the Obamacare site.....sarcasm people...nothing to do with redirecting working sites
Oh, I see. Well since I’ve run the servers your sites are on at large organizations with 1000’s of users for longer I’d say you have a bit to learn.
The reason your sites have < .01% failure is because there is staff behind them replacing the disk drives that fail daily at a large site. Yes, daily. Let them accumulate and I guarantee you your failures would be > .01%. There is no staff there now. They were told to prep for an indeterminately long shutdown, so at the crudest level they put in top level redirects.
There’s a perfectly valid reason to put in such redirects. When/if a server fails (they always do) there will be something other than a timeout error. How many more resources would you have them expend to make the many different web sites match your idea of perfection? So the info is there for the clueful, and a failure is covered, but that’s not good enough for you.
The govt. is not running their sites on GoDaddy. And in the end it is only a web site, big deal. The content is out there 100 ways in other forms for anyone that is clueful and industrious enough to type a few words into a search engine. End of small issue. You are making a mountain from a molehill.
Lol....your support of the administration is understood.
If a site belongs to a private company, there is not much cost to maintain it. If it belongs to a gov’t agency, it requires 24 hour well paid gov’t workers that sit around and watch porn all day.
haaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa
Yesterday, when the stories about Claude Moore Farm, the Mt Vernon parking lot and Colonial Williamsburg being closed hit, I went looking for the backgrounds of Obama appointees working at NPS.
Without the NPS website being available, it was a little challenging to find. Right away, anyways ...
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