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To: Olog-hai
If this had happened and Hitler had managed to destroy the Soviet Union, what would he have done then? Turned his attention back to defeating the Western European countries?

Had this been accepted, a larger number of Soviet Jews might have fallen into German hands, so the death toll from the Holocaust might well have been even larger than it was.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 8:24:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Sure. The purpose of Molotov-Ribbentrop at all was to secure Hitler’s east. And laying claim to the crown jewels of the Holy Roman Empire spelled out Hitler’s intentions only too clearly.


12 posted on 09/26/2013 8:27:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Verginius Rufus

It would have been horrific, for Jews and for Christians and for anyone else viewed as the old guard, and the peace gained thereby for Britain only temporary.

Russian atheistic communism was horrible, but not as horrible as the overtly demonic Nazism. Buttressing Russia against Germany supported a lesser monster, one which eventually did yield to a more open model of government but not before giving the world jitters for decades.


16 posted on 09/26/2013 8:37:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

A possible best case scenario:

Hitler takes Moscow.....as a result, Stalin and the Bolsheviks are overthrown and a new non-Communist leadership takes over the defense of Russia, and rallies the Russians to victory....And in the end, both Stalin and Hitler are out of the picture.


21 posted on 09/26/2013 8:49:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Verginius Rufus

we forget how vast the Soviet Union was. After Moscow there is a lot of “lebensraum” all the way to to the Pacific Ocean. They would have been busy for decades rolling east.


44 posted on 09/26/2013 9:52:00 PM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Good movie/book on the subject of "what if?" Germany had survived well into the 1960's...

Fatherland.

Some of the dialogue was shocking...they had the Beatles on tour, Joseph Kennedy here in the USA...well, won't spoil the plot.

And behind it all, underlying the plot, was a great Evil and rumors of the disappearance of large numbers of Jews. Oh, the war was still brewing (this is past-1960, folks!) with the Russians, who just simply never ever gave up.

Creepy book.

Sauron

...and if SAURON says it's creepy....

61 posted on 09/27/2013 12:23:16 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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