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Hmph. Just another treaty. If true.
1 posted on 09/26/2013 8:16:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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And the Democrats offered to fund the government only if they are allowed to implement Obamacare...


2 posted on 09/26/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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Maybe we should have taken them up on it. Let Enemy 1 fight Enemy 2 while we sit and watch.


3 posted on 09/26/2013 8:18:49 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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But then, not enough people would have died to suit FDR.


4 posted on 09/26/2013 8:19:18 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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May very well have been true. Hitler's primary objective in the war to the West, besides humiliating France, was to secure his rear for Barbarossa, the all-out onslaught to the East. If he could have achieved that security without expending his forces, he would have. At least for the time being.
6 posted on 09/26/2013 8:21:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Sounds like something out of a Harry Turtledove novel.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 8:21:15 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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If this had happened and Hitler had managed to destroy the Soviet Union, what would he have done then? Turned his attention back to defeating the Western European countries?

Had this been accepted, a larger number of Soviet Jews might have fallen into German hands, so the death toll from the Holocaust might well have been even larger than it was.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 8:24:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Interesting. Let Hitler and Stalin kick each others butts.


11 posted on 09/26/2013 8:24:52 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Two genocidal nations fighting each other in a war of attrition. We should have really supported that action.


13 posted on 09/26/2013 8:31:08 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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Monday morning quarterbacking WWII. In 1941 it was the Soviet Union that had been genocidal, not Germany. And the genocide continued after Germany was defeated in 1945, while the West was whistling Dixie past the graveyards of millions murdered by Communists. 100+ million to day. Hitler was a piker, despite what we are told daily and daily.


18 posted on 09/26/2013 8:42:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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I always believe Hess went to England on Hitler’s orders.

Hess didn’t take a dump unless the Fuhrer told him to.


19 posted on 09/26/2013 8:42:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Right, that’s rich! Peace in our time. Only needed lebensraum in the Sudetenland.


24 posted on 09/26/2013 8:51:48 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Keep in mind that our government was overrun with actual commie agents at the time, and they always whispered in FDR’s ear about the need to save the Soviets.


25 posted on 09/26/2013 8:53:05 PM PDT by Defiant (A rainbow curtain has descended upon the west, from Munich to San Francisco.)
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This story looks fishy to me. I was a Navy brat in those days and my family moved to Norfolk in the Spring of 1941, shortly after my father shipped out for service in the Atlantic fleet ... and convoys were leaving Norfolk frequently, carrying materials like coal to places like Russia. After we went to war, German subs were waiting to sink ships just outside Cheseapeake Bay, where the convoys came together. I remember seeing nighttime flashs from ship explosions off Virginia Beach, and then seeing beaches covered with oil — inside the bay.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 8:56:45 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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Having beaten and humiliated France, taken over Denmark and Norway and bombed the bejeezus out of Britain, Hitler really thought he could just say ''Sorry it's all been a big mistake. I meant to attack the Soviet Union. Sorry for the mess. I'll be leaving now'';. Hitler went ballistic when he found out what Hess had done. Everyone involved in Hess's hare-brained scheme, from the Luftwaffe officer who taught Hess to fly to the two Luftwaffe officers who drove to Berchtesgaden to give him the news were arrested.

Hess was a peculiar character , some what dim witted and obsessed with astrology with a wide streak of melancholy . Hitler suffered him only because Hess had been in prison at Landsberg in the same cell with him. It was Hess whom Hitler dictated “Mein Kampf’’to but as time went on after coming to power Hitler grew increasingly annoyed by Hess and his peculiarities.

30 posted on 09/26/2013 8:59:37 PM PDT by jmacusa
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It never made much sense for Hess to have “gone rogue” and done this. He was way too fanatical to do anything like that.

Makes a lot more sense if Hitler just wanted to deny any involvement if the offer was shot down.


35 posted on 09/26/2013 9:18:00 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Hitler and Stalin in a battle to the death?

I would have taken that deal in a second.


40 posted on 09/26/2013 9:30:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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In hind sight, we should have taken them up on that offer.


42 posted on 09/26/2013 9:43:11 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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It’s no coincidence that the two major axis powers were on each end of the USSR.


50 posted on 09/26/2013 10:08:51 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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I’m waiting for Pat Buchanan to weigh in on the matter.


58 posted on 09/26/2013 11:39:23 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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What about Poland? Lithuania? Latvia? Hitler considered most of Poland as part of Germany, so that would not have been negotiable. Same with Austria.

France would have to lose at least Alsace and Lorraine, no way Hitler was giving that back.

What about the West's treaties with Poland which they basically ignored anyway when Poland was invaded? What about all of the Jews from Germany to Moscow and beyond?

59 posted on 09/27/2013 12:13:27 AM PDT by MacMattico
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