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Video: Student suspended, possibly expelled for playing with toy gun in his own yard
Hotair ^ | 09/24/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/24/2013 8:08:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When do schools assume legal responsibility for your children? At the school, on the bus, or at the bus stop? The latter is likely the best answer, but no one believes that it starts in your front yard, seventy feet away from the bus stop. Nobody, that is, except perhaps the Virginia Beach City Public School System, which may expel Khalid Caraballo today for shooting a non-lethal pellet pistol in his own front yard last week:

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A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo’s private property.

The school says that Khalid and his friends shot pellets “at people near the bus stop,” and that one student was within ten feet of the stop when targeted. The school has a responsibility to secure the stop and to impose discipline for the safety of its students. If they can establish that the horseplay did involve the bus stop and students who didn’t want to participate, then they would likely have legal grounds to address the situation.

That still leaves the matter of expelling a student for playing with pellet pistols without malice, and who may just have been careless while playing on his own property. This might call for detention to make a point, but it’s impossible to imagine that this incident alone makes Khalid so ungovernable that he should be expelled for an entire school year for it. Given Khalid’s concerns over the incident, it’s even less imaginable:

Khalid said he will never do this again. “It’s terrible. I won’t get the chance to go to a good college. It’s on your school record. The school said I had possession of a firearm. They aren’t going to ask me any questions. They are going to think it was a real gun, and I was trying to hurt someone. They will say ‘oh, we can’t accept you.’ “

This looks very much like another case of zero-tolerance rules running adults rather than the other way around.


TOPICS: Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 2ndthread; guncontrol; secondamendment; suspension; toygun
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1 posted on 09/24/2013 8:08:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
ZERO TOLERANCE FOLLIES...

2 posted on 09/24/2013 8:09:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If I were their father they would be getting the ass-beating of their lives, for shooting AT other people.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 8:10:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thought police out in force


4 posted on 09/24/2013 8:10:39 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: SeekAndFind

Legally, is the gun in question “a firearm?” If it isn’t, then the school is maliciously libeling the student.


5 posted on 09/24/2013 8:10:41 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The biggest mistake parents make today is sending their children to public schools with these asinine policies.


6 posted on 09/24/2013 8:15:23 AM PDT by goldi
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To: SeekAndFind
Video of Eric Holder on CSpan in 1995: We must brainwash people against guns.
7 posted on 09/24/2013 8:15:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Name the person who ordered the suspension.

Publish their address and phone number.

Make them worry.

Really worry.

Do it now.

It’s time this bull-Obama stuff stops.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 8:31:10 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

BookMark


9 posted on 09/24/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: SeekAndFind

In order for the tyrannical government to ensure they never meet with resistance or a revolt, the emasculation of boys (war on boys) continues..


10 posted on 09/24/2013 8:51:01 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: coloradan
Legally, is the gun in question “a firearm?” If it isn’t, then the school is maliciously libeling the student.

Q: Does the ATF regulate the sale and possession of air guns? Is an air gun classified as a “firearm” under Federal law?

The term “firearm” is defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(3), to include “(A) any weapon (including a starter gun), which will, or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon….”

Based on Section 921(a)(3), air guns, because they use compressed air and not an explosive to expel a projectile, do not constitute firearms under Federal law — unless they are manufactured with the frames or receivers of an actual firearm. Accordingly, the domestic sale and possession of air guns is normally unregulated under the Federal firearms laws enforced by ATF.
Source: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html
11 posted on 09/24/2013 8:53:37 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: SeekAndFind

From the other thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070578/posts?page=30#30

Looking at the actual letter (https://linmedia-cms.endplay.com/documents/234677/0/Principal%27s+response/f65e30ee-1e06-49a3-b212-30e18a55b6cb) from the school, we find the real reason:

In the course of the investigation, conducted in concert with a police officer and the school division Office of Safety and Loss Control, we identified the children who were firing pellet guns at each other and at people near the bus stop. Several students verified that they had been hit by pellets and had the marks to support their claims. In one instance, a child was only 10 feet from the bus stop and ran from the shots being fired but was still hit. Another student claimed to be shot in the back while running away during a previous incident Wednesday, Sept. 11. This child was also shot in the arm and head during Thursday’s incident

He wasn’t suspended for having an airsoft gun. He was suspended for assaulting other kids waiting for the school bus with it.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: SeekAndFind

LAWSUIT TIME............
1. HOME SCHOOL
2. PRIVATE SCHOOL
3. CYBER SCHOOL


13 posted on 09/24/2013 9:13:43 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Mr. K
I agree with you 100%
14 posted on 09/24/2013 9:22:45 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Government as NANNY to our children.
I did not know a single boy that I went through grade school with that did not have toy guns. We all played cowboys and indians, Combat and Spy. Not one of us committed a school shooting. Going through school I never even heard of a school shooting, anywhere. We Pledge Alliance every day and we were allowed to pray in school. Bullies only lasted a week or two. As many boys as it took to kick his ass got together, did that, and the bulling ended.
Now suicide due to bully is rampant. The Pledge is gone, the Bible and God are banned from school, children are taught that people are not evil but an inanimate tool, the gun, is evil. School shooting happen regularly.
Thank you liberals and atheists.
15 posted on 09/24/2013 9:24:58 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: goldi

exactly... the parents should say, “thank you very much,” and never send him back—to any government school...


16 posted on 09/24/2013 9:25:05 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Whenifhow
The school's investigation can't see to get anything right.

Pellet guns fire metal or lead pellets. Airsoft use only plastic BB's...

Big difference here.

17 posted on 09/24/2013 9:28:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

There were several posts regarding this on the other thread.
From the other thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070578/posts


18 posted on 09/24/2013 9:31:18 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Mr. K

Really......an Airsoft gun?


19 posted on 09/24/2013 9:34:10 AM PDT by 03A3 (The reset is gonna be epic.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Absolutely, filed by the parents of the kids at the bus stop who were being shot at by this hooligan.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 9:51:08 AM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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