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To: Colofornian

If anyone cares about the victims, or children in PA, they will seek the truth, and put the focus where much of it belongs - on the failures of the local and state departments and agencies.

The same OAG that prosecuted js was responsible for overseeing his charity. CYS and DPW allowed him to adopt 6 children and foster dozens more.

Blaming a dead football coach does nothing to protect children in PA.


85 posted on 09/18/2013 4:56:35 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa; Lancey Howard; All
If anyone cares about the victims, or children in PA, they will seek the truth, and put the focus where much of it belongs - on the failures of the local and state departments and agencies. The same OAG that prosecuted js was responsible for overseeing his charity. CYS and DPW allowed him to adopt 6 children and foster dozens more. Blaming a dead football coach does nothing to protect children in PA.

And the key question this thread began to focus around -- since it was both YOU and LANCEY HOWARD who directed the thread Paterno's way -- is whether JoePa should be exonerated from this mess.

I mean the original piece (NY Times) upon which is thread is based mention paterno only once. And that by mere reference to who this Penn State prof emeritus was discussing.

It wasn't posters beyond the Penn State rah-rah Jopologists who jumped on this thread to direct the convo toward Paterno. Nope. Lancey Howard's first two posts on this thread (#s 9 & 10) mentioned Paterno. And then YOU raise the following question in post #11: "Do you believe that Coach Paterno was a part of the conspiracy to conceal — to cover up the crimes at Penn State by Jerry Sandusky?"

So keep all this in context. YOU raised the question; so deal with our opinions on it.

Secondly, the very headline of this thread deals with Penn State's IMAGE...which can't be shed by merely pointing to Paterno's deadness, or pointing to the bars Sandusky is behind...bars about to be extended as a "welcome wagon" to others STILL on Penn State's payroll books...well, to update that tech-wise...still on Penn State's payroll software.

Which, in turn, brings out key questions:

If Penn State leaders could fire Paterno, why didn't they fire the athletic director Curley? Why didn't they fire Spanier as a tenured prof?

Why not Penn State? Why not FlJoePa? Why not Lancey Howard?

If they are even more responsible for Penn State's mess than JoePa, why did they get off the Penn State hook?

Answer the question...

And if Penn State was so concerned with its image, why was Spanier still on its payroll 10 months ago (& perhaps even now for all I know) & Curley just a few months ago??? Why?

I mean sure, Spanier stepped down as Penn State prez, but he kept his tenured faculty position.

So, here you have...
...Spanier as STILL a Penn State employee (he went on leave Nov/2012 once he was indicted...not sure if its merely "leave" or "paid leave")
...and Penn State had Curley as a PAID employee on "PAID leave" up thru Spring (or so) of this year (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8718495/trial-hearing-delayed-penn-state-administrators-graham-spanier-tim-curley-gary-schultz)

Curley's contract, I believe...per the above ESPN source...ended as of the end of the 2012-2013 schoolyear

86 posted on 09/18/2013 9:12:00 AM PDT by Colofornian
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