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Groups want poor image of Penn State to go away
New York Times ^ | 9-16-13 | Tim Rohan

Posted on 09/16/2013 7:01:46 PM PDT by FlJoePa

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — ...John Nichols sat in his office in the old wing of the Willard Building, across the lawn from Old Main, fuming about what people have been saying, for two years now, about the university he loves.

John Nichols, a professor emeritus, contends that a child sexual abuse scandal has unfairly defined Penn State.

The campus was bustling. The students had returned. This bucolic town’s main drag, College Avenue, had come alive. Stores sold shirts that read, “Billieve” and “O’Brien’s Lions.” Football season was close, and almost everyone seemed excited for Coach Bill O’Brien’s second year.

Nichols sat behind his large wooden desk, surrounded by four full bookshelves. He has spent 36 years at Penn State. He raised his children here. He is a professor emeritus and a former chairman of the faculty senate. Now he was talking about Jerry Sandusky and Joe Paterno and he was getting angry. He sat up straighter. His eyes bulged. He threw his hands up.

“Just this last weekend, I was with some of my closest friends in another state,” he said. “Of course the subject always comes up — always comes up. It’s like a scarlet letter. And when I say that most of what you’ve read is not true, they look at you like — even close friends — they look at you like: ‘Are you a Holocaust denier? You’ve drunk the Penn State Kool-Aid. What other conspiracy theory do you have?’

“Can you imagine the frustration when you know that there’s been a gross mischaracterization of what has happened at Penn State? And that I and my kids who graduated from Penn State, my friends and colleagues here, are going to have to live with being guilty for crimes we did not commit?”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: academicbias; cultureofcorruption; homosexualagenda; jerrysandusky; lavendermafia; ncaa; nothingtoseehere; pedu; psu
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To: Jay Redhawk

What exactly did he learn? How do you know what he was told? You relying on louis freeh? Hah! His rag of a report has been shredded and will get an even worse treatment once the lawsuit against the ncaa goes forward on Oct. 29th.

Again - this interview was on national television a couple of weeks ago. I guess you missed it:

KETEYIAN: Do you believe that Coach Paterno was a part of the conspiracy to conceal — to cover up the crimes at Penn State by Jerry Sandusky?

[lead js prosecutor] FINA: I do not. And — and I — I’m viewing this strictly on the evidence, not any kind of fealty to anybody. I did not find that evidence.


41 posted on 09/16/2013 8:30:20 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

People that live in, around and spend their entire lives around college/academia, are completely and totally detached from reality...

They have no clue.


42 posted on 09/16/2013 8:32:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SargeK

Amen brother, that’s it in a nutshell.


43 posted on 09/16/2013 8:41:09 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FlJoePa

Costa’s is a lying scumbag.


44 posted on 09/16/2013 8:50:41 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Paladin2

It is known that Spanier gave js emeritus status so he could hang around the “locker room”. With all the crap about Spanier’s wife swapping, Cfest and the Sex fair, what else has been going on!


45 posted on 09/16/2013 9:03:33 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Busko

Rumor has it that there was a circle of enabling within the greater State Penn hierarchy and accolades.


46 posted on 09/16/2013 9:14:48 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Busko

Spanier rode into Penn state vowing to make the place the most “gay-friendly campus in the country”. Since that day I have told every donation solicitor who called me, “Sorry. Not a dime until Spanier is gone.” Is it any wonder a homosexual pedophile like Sandusky felt right at home on Penn State’s campus? My only question is, “Who else in the Penn State administration is a homosexual pedophile?” The answer probably lies in who was most active in Second Mile.


47 posted on 09/16/2013 9:21:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Paladin2

Rumour has it that the pedophile ring was supplying Washington D.C. Easier than traveling to Thailand.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 9:37:02 PM PDT by virgin (Don't screw with me.)
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To: FlJoePa; DIRTYSECRET; Lancey Howard; All
Do you believe that Coach Paterno was a part of the conspiracy to conceal — to cover up the crimes at Penn State by Jerry Sandusky? [lead js prosecutor] FINA: I do not. And — and I — I’m viewing this strictly on the evidence, not any kind of fealty to anybody. I did not find that evidence.

Listen...and please listen well: There are cover-ups by commission -- of which it's hard to prove JoePa was guilty of ... and then there's cover-ups by omission...which is all too easy to conclude in this case.

JoePa was a literal "god" on campus. He was in the post Sandusky shower years STILL at that time THE most powerful man on campus.

He hired the shower eyewitness onto his staff as a wide receivers coach AFTER the shower stall report.

All he ever had to do was to have one little convo with his asst coach -- asking if the authorities had ever followed up on that report. [Upon which he could have pushed his supposed "superiors" on campus further as to why it was never "handled" properly...I say supposed "superiors" because at one point JoePa was still powerful enough to throw his weight around campus had he so chosen]

Either that little convo didn't happen...which was outright neglect...or, he found out the answer & pursued NOTHING further that would have removed his name from the ensuing taint.

This same wide receiver coach then cont'd up the "reward" progression ... being named head of recruiting. So, JoePa & others who "Hired" him as WR coach & then head of recruiting could "research" all they want about the man they were in the process of hiring...but they couldn't find out one simple thing about the lack of authorities' pursuit of what he saw in the Penn State shower?

Sorry...there IS such a thing as common-sense credulity.

49 posted on 09/16/2013 10:40:54 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Lancey Howard; highball; All
No he didn't. You're clueless. The assistant himself wasn't clear about what he saw. You are aware, aren't you, that the shower incident was the one incident Sandusky was ruled "not guilty" on? Of course you aren't - - you're clueless.

Per the Grand Jury Presentment (2010): McQueary reported that he saw: 'fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy'
[language of Grand Jury presentment, p.7]

#1: So your "wasn't clear about what he saw" is perhaps a distinction of sodomy/rape vs. "fondling" or other sexual abuse.

#2: Remember that some of the jury that convicted Sandusky were diehard Nittany Lion fans. So, of course, they would vote for a "not guilty" on the one charge that was closest to the dagger of the heart of Penn State and Paterno. They wanted Sandusky properly "hung"; but they wanted the controversy to be as straight-armed as possible away from Penn State/Paterno.

50 posted on 09/16/2013 10:52:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
JoePa was a literal "god" on campus. He was in the post Sandusky shower years STILL at that time THE most powerful man on campus.

Yeah, you and the rest of the pathetic lynch mob keep repeating that myth. Paterno was a highly respected football coach who did more for thousands of young people and a university than somebody like you could ever hope to do. Paterno was an old man who coached the football team - - he wasn't a cop or an investigator or a prosecutor. Throw your crap at all the people - - and there's plenty of them - - who were supposed to DO something about Sandusky and quit smearing the reputation of somebody who's not around to defend himself. Get some class. And shove that "god" stuff up your rear end.

51 posted on 09/16/2013 11:21:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Colofornian

By the way, do some homework before you make a fool of yourself again. Start by reading post #26, re: “Victim #2 - the boy in the shower”.


52 posted on 09/16/2013 11:26:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FlJoePa
John Ziegler knows as close to the truth as anyone. He has spent nearly 2 years on this. Bob Costas knows the truth as well. You’ll be hearing more from him soon.

Aren't those two a couple of left wingers?

53 posted on 09/16/2013 11:38:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: FlJoePa
On top of that, Victim #2 (the boy in the shower) has come forward and said himself that never happened.

Wrong...

Listen: Chilling Phone Messages From Jerry Sandusky to Victim No. 2

Indictment of Jerry Sandusky

Jerry Sandusky Trial: 'Victim 4' Delivers Graphic Testimony About 'Love Letters,' Abuse In Showers

Jerry Sandusky Trial: Janitor and "Victim 5" testify about alleged shower assaults

As far as Paterno's culpability goes, this sums it up, from the man himself...

‘I Wish I Had Done More’

Sorry but no matter how hard you try you will never separate Sandusky from his enablers.


54 posted on 09/17/2013 3:50:23 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: FlJoePa
John Ziegler knows as close to the truth as anyone.

John Ziegler is a creep of the lowest order.

John Ziegler reveals 'Victim 2' information, ethical standards called into question

Jerry Sandusky Victim #2 Threatened By John Ziegler: "Talk to Me or I'll OUT YOU"

55 posted on 09/17/2013 3:56:03 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Lancey Howard
Yeah, you and the rest of the pathetic lynch mob keep repeating that myth

Oh please, Paterno ran that campus and everybody at penn States knew it. What Paterno wanted, Paterno got. And what Paterno didn't want, stayed buried. Period.

56 posted on 09/17/2013 4:00:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SargeK

Thank you for the excellent post.


57 posted on 09/17/2013 4:11:27 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Dallas59

“Penn must be full of homos.”

More so than you think.


58 posted on 09/17/2013 4:21:41 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Timber Rattler; FlJoePa; Lancey Howard; All
Bingo

"Enablers" is exactly pinpoint!

59 posted on 09/17/2013 6:01:53 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Timber Rattler; FlJoePa

Shows hos Jopologists will reach for any tidbit...no matter the source


60 posted on 09/17/2013 6:03:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
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