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Self | 8 Sep 2013 | Self

Posted on 09/08/2013 2:59:43 PM PDT by sauropod

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To: Gen.Blather

Thanks much.

How does one measure lethality so you can compare between guns? Is there a standard measure of some kind?


21 posted on 09/08/2013 3:08:44 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Constitutional Patriot

...ahhh...Glocks...Damned auto correct...


22 posted on 09/08/2013 3:09:10 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: sauropod
Para Ordnance 45 / 1911 Big Hawg 14/ACP

http://www.para-usa.com/2013/index.php

23 posted on 09/08/2013 3:09:27 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: sauropod
Online gun purchases must be made using Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders as intermediaries. That is, you agree to purchase a firearm, that party uses an FFL holder to send it to your FFL holder, who provides you with the documentation, etc, pertinent to your state. The notion that no background check is involved in online purchases is a complete fiction.

Two places I have used to shop are www.gunbroker.com and www.gunsamerica.com - there are others, certainly.

If you're committed to that caliber (my favorite) there are numerous options within the $500-700 range. Many of these are 1911-type single-action-only models, but there are others as well. If you're a Glock fan the Model 21 fits your budget. FN makes a very nice FNX in .45 ACP.

Or you could opt for a gold-plated Springfield Armory Bill of Rights commemorative .45 for the low low price of $10,000. If you do that I want to be your friend.

24 posted on 09/08/2013 3:09:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mad_as_he$$

Appreciate that. If you have a preferred retailer, pls share.

Cheers,

‘Pod.


25 posted on 09/08/2013 3:10:06 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks Randall!


26 posted on 09/08/2013 3:10:36 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

Go to a range that rents guns and shoot all the different ones they have. You’ll find the one that is right for you.


27 posted on 09/08/2013 3:10:55 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Still crazy after all these beers.)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

Will do. I’ve been meaning to anyways. NRA for the safety class?


28 posted on 09/08/2013 3:11:13 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

I have dealt with Cheaper than Dirt with good results. Likewise Midway and Bud’s Guns. I would buy from any of these.

When you make your online purchase, you will need to give them a licensed dealer within your state to use as a shipping location. Using your zip code, they can provide a recommended dealer, but it’s your choice. I use my local, friendly pawn shop and they charged me $25 for the service. They call when the gun arrives, you go to the store, fill out the paperwork, and you are on your way. Easy. As a courtesy, I always ask permission from the local dealer and give them a heads up on shipping date.

I like Sigs.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 3:11:27 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: RetiredTexasVet

That’d be the purpose for this thread.


30 posted on 09/08/2013 3:11:47 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

You’re cutting it really close for purchasing a soon to be restricted pistol that has to be transferred in from out of state. I think you need to decide by tomorrow. You’re going to blow that $500 budget when taxes, transfer fees, and five extra mags are factored in. I’d consider ten mags, in fact, if I were you in MD and I’m glad I’m not.


31 posted on 09/08/2013 3:12:00 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Gen.Blather
This is the little lady's S&W .38 Airweight:

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It kicks more than my .45. It is a great little gun.

32 posted on 09/08/2013 3:12:17 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: sauropod

I don’t know if IMI (Israel Military Industries) still makes them, but years ago they kicked out a really good piece for a really good price.

And all parts were interchangeable with the standard 1911.

But hey, I’m old, times change. You’ll get good advice from the crew.


33 posted on 09/08/2013 3:13:05 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: gorush

Truthfully, I don’t know the difference. Revolvers have longer barrels, correct?

I’m looking for something short barrel and portable. My revolver doesn’t “feel” like that to me.


34 posted on 09/08/2013 3:13:13 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Agree. Never liked Glock personally. My favorite .45 is CZ.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:13 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: sauropod
I'd check http://budsgunshop.com
36 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: Billthedrill

Thanks Bill.

afraid 10k is out of my budget right now. I’ve got 2 kids in college ;-)


37 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:32 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwstiac.alionscience.com%2Fpdf%2FWQV8N1_ART01.pdf&ei=FPYsUqf5IJHJ4APl9YHYDw&usg=AFQjCNEb8MUdAk8zvbXuzm_s-4-myu_mvA

https://www.google.com/search?q=bullet+lethality+chart&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=i_YsUpHhLqyh4AOA1oDgAg&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=893&bih=434

I actually couldn’t find the simple chart that compared brands and calibers. It listed Glaser (sp?) plastic bullets and they were among the best. The worst were full metal jacket.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:40 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sauropod

weight should be considered because a heavier gun recoils less and has less muzzle flip - both meean faster folowing shots. However, too heavy and it gets left behind - baaad idea.

Smallest .45 ACP is the AMT 45 backup. Nice, but with a 17# trigger pull. Arguably a superb close range defense carry gun, and defense shootings are close encounters of teh Urban Feral kind.

The plastic guns function well and are lighter to carry.

My choice would be the AMT in my pocket because a man can walk with a hand in his pocket and no one notices - this can cut your time to draw and fire to under one second, as the gun is already in your hand if the situation seems threatening.

A SS .45 can be a good CCW choice if you can find a S&W 4516-1 or the S&W 4516-2 (AL frame). There is even a S&W Chief’s Special which is smaller than the 4516 series.

Depending on your size, you might even be able to CCW a .44/.45 revolver. In that case, the Dan Wesson revolvers can change barrels, though Keith favored the 4” .44 mag revolver.

In any, and all cases, do get a Laserlyte training laser. It is inserted in the muzzle and emits a 10 ms red dot to show where the bullet would have hit. This allows “range time” in many places and many times.

Best thing since smokeless powder!


39 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:42 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Veggie Todd

Excellent suggestion. Will do.


40 posted on 09/08/2013 3:15:16 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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