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To: Trod Upon
They could have said whatever they wanted. He was not going to allow them to leave the union.

No, but if they'd freed their slaves, or even put freedom on the calendar, Britain and France would have recognized them, broken the blockade and they would have gained their independence.

But the problem was that the reason they wanted independence was to protect slavery, so independence without slavery was irrelevant. The CSA Congress debated the issue of whether to free even the slave soldiers they were recruiting as late as well into 1865, when most opposed the idea despite the utter peril of the times.

Also, of course, had they freed their slaves they would have had no terribly important reason to leave the Union in the first place.

114 posted on 08/29/2013 1:21:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

None of that negates the fact that Lincoln was willing to allow the institution of slavery to continue in the states where it already existed and only went to war to retain them in the union. I’m also not sure Britain and France would have recognized them without greater military success on the part of the Confederacy. They were both colonial powers practicing their own forms of de facto slavery on a national scale.


174 posted on 08/31/2013 10:30:26 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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