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To: xzins

Apparently a lot of these trolls seem to think that unless you are born within the boundaries of the 50 states that somehow you can’t be a Natural Born Citizen. Or if only one of your parents is a Citizen that you can’t be a Natural Born Citizen or whatever floats their boat.

Apparently Cruz’s father came here from Cuba and was a legal resident of the United States at the time he married Cruz’s Mother who was born in Delaware to Citizen parents. They were living in Canada while doing seismic testing for his father’s Austin Texas based company and were never permanent residents of Canada but worked off a US Passport and Visa.

Ted’s only connection to Canada was that that he was born there while his parents were doing business abroad. Neither of his parents were ever Candadian Citizens or permanent residents of Canada. His situation is no different from that of a citizen soldier being stationed in Germany or Japan who has a baby in that country.

This is really becoming a major distraction. These people are bent on destroying Ted Cruz and creating dissension among the conservatives. I must conclude that they are carrying the water for the MSM and the GOP-e and the Democrats. I don’t think Free Republic is the place for people to carry water for those entities.


190 posted on 08/27/2013 3:45:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

I can assure you that I do not carry water for the GOPe. Please review my posting history, you will see that I detest them, Boehner, Jeb Bush, Rove, McCain, et al. I have been quite critical of Boehner in particular.

Sure on passing issues/news I throw out one-liners. On important issues though, such as immigration, Obama’s ineligibility, as well as Cruz’s, I try to present facts. If you disagree with them fine, present facts to refute.

I like Cruz. He is articulate. He stands up. He is conservative. Pro-life, Austrian economics. What’s not to like? We have to remain grounded. The man hasn’t been a Senator for a year. Let’s keep our heads and be sure that he is eligible.

Others on this thread have posted the possibility that Cruz is being clever, trying to smoke out Obama’s ineligibility. I certainly hope so. But I have reservations that is the case.

There are some on this thread who are Obama supporters. They have been promoting Cruz. Some do so quite enthusiastically, no doubt for nefarious purposes. This has also been alluded to by other posters.

We’ve all lamented that Obama wasn’t vetted. But now that potential candidates on our side are being vetted here, some want to shut down debate. That would be a shame. If you disagree with something I post, present facts to refute. If they’re convincing, great! But don’t try to shut down debate.


197 posted on 08/27/2013 4:03:26 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: P-Marlowe; Cold Case Posse Supporter; xzins; Jim Robinson; Lakeshark; Ray76

Leading up to the 2008 election, I remember a news piece in which the Obama campaign specifically recruited (and paid some) website advocates who would counter in any online debate any detractor of Obama. They viciously defended Obama and the personal attacks on any non-Obama supporter went way over the top. I’m sure they did the same in the 2012 election.

So, main newspaper discussion board, website discussion boards, and the like were monitored by the opposition at all hours.

I think that the GOPe has picked up on that in 2011-12 cycle, and they attempted it here on FR early on with Romney, but JR wouldn’t put up with it. He got famous for zotting Romney supporters.

In any case, I can see that the entire liberal establishment, both democrat and GOP-e, want to destroy Cruz early due to his crusade in favor of defunding ObamaCare.

My personal experience with volunteer discussion board agitators says that we must expect some of them to be official agitators who are trying even here on Free Republic to cripple Cruz as this ObamaCare defunding debate goes forward.

How do you distinguish between an overwrought birther and a covert agitator working for the GOP-e?

I think it will be their unwillingness to relent until AFTER the defunding/immigration debate is settled.


206 posted on 08/27/2013 4:40:52 PM PDT by xzins
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