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To: JRandomFreeper

I served with draftees, since the draft for the Marines and Army ran from 1941 through 1973, draftee was common.

In WWII many Marines and sailors were draftees, and the Army that fought WWII was 93% drafted, a military that can’t turn an 18 year old teen into a good soldier is in trouble.

The all volunteer military is incredibly expensive, and is self destructing, the shortage of men has feminized the military as females, moms, and grandmothers had to be recruited to make up the shortages, we lack bench depth for major wars.

The 40 years of changes that the volunteer military has brought, has actually made it too late for a draft to save the military, since now, the draft would not be used to bring in men only, but would now reflect the volunteer military of males, females, and gays.

At least the draft could save money and create a large inactive reserve of trained GIs.


12 posted on 08/25/2013 3:01:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. ThereÂ’s a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.)
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To: ansel12
The all volunteer military is incredibly expensive, and is self destructing, the shortage of men has feminized the military as females, moms, and grandmothers had to be recruited to make up the shortages, we lack bench depth for major wars.

Maybe if they chose their battles, and then fought to win and go home, they wouldn't have that problem.

Sending these guys in, over and over, with one hand tied behind their back, with queers and women in the mix is a great recruiting tool.

18 posted on 08/25/2013 3:22:01 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ansel12
The all volunteer military is incredibly expensive, and is self destructing, the shortage of men has feminized the military as females, moms, and grandmothers had to be recruited to make up the shortages, we lack bench depth for major wars.

BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. The women's lib hippy feel good nonsense recruited women into the military. Socialists that think the military is the perfect place to conduct social experimentation recruited females into the military.

The all volunteer military isn't self-destructing....it is being intentionally destroyed from the outside. It isn't some Lance Corporal that decided to repeal DADT and pack the ranks with faggots. It isn't some Sgt deciding the Marine Corps needs to drop to a troop level of 150,000. It isn't a Capt deciding the Army needs to cut all those combat brigades.

It wasn't the troops that decided women should be in the infantry and special forces. Tell me, if the Army is dropping combat brigades and the Marine Corps is dropping infantry battalions, just how the hell do you explain there is a lack of men and therefore a need for women in these positions? How is it.? Please by all means enlighten me, when they are FORCING MEN OUT THAT WANT TO STAY!

The draft would be more expensive to maintain than the volunteer force. While service members receive benefits and incentives to enlist/re-enlist, today's military is highly technical......a two year turnover on draftees removes continuity and hinders operational capability.

For a Marine it is 3 months of recruit training, leave, and another month of combat training....before they ever get to their MOS school, which can be up to a year long - that's nearly 1 1/2 years and millions of dollars in training before their first day on the job.

For grunts, it is 3 months of RC, leave, and 2 mos of infantry school before they ever hit the fleet .......and usually 6 months+ before they, and their unit, are certified and shipped off on deployment. That's about a year for a brand new Marine to deploy for 6-7 months.....and then the end of of their draft time under your timetable.

We lost over 400,000 in WWII and nearly 60,000 in Vietnam with draftees. After over 10 years in Iraq and Afghanistan - less than 8,000. That is a direct reflection of willing people that are able to turnover skills and experiences (including advances in medicine that allow the injured to live through what would have previously killed them) and work in concert.

Not to mention, just conducting the background checks for upper level security clearances can run upwards of $50,000 - each serviceman.

In short the constant turnover and recycle would be MORE expensive under the draft.

If you want to know "who" is destroying the military, smile at the people you pass on your way to the grocery store, or pass at the mall. They voted for it.

50 posted on 08/25/2013 4:34:56 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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