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(subtitle) 4,000-year-old remains were discovered on Bord na Móna land in Co Laois in 2011.
The bog body found by Jason Phelan at the Bord Na Mona Cashel Bog, in Co Laois. The body is estimated to be over 4,000 years old, and is possibly the result of a human sacrifice. Photograph: Alan Betson/The Irish Times.

The bog body found by Jason Phelan at the Bord Na Mona Cashel Bog, in Co Laois. The body is estimated to be over 4,000 years old, and is possibly the result of a human sacrifice. Photograph: Alan Betson/The Irish Times.

1 posted on 08/23/2013 6:12:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Helen Thomas?


3 posted on 08/23/2013 6:31:39 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not quite right about oldest to date— but the Windover Bog find in Titusville, FL in 1984 was dated 7,990 years to 8,120 years, plus or minus 70 years.
What’s even more amazing, preserved brain tissue was found in some 91 skulls, the first from a woman of 45 years old at death. DNA sequencing was done.

State of FL allocated almost $1 Mil for excavation. Still being studied today, archived at FSU Archeaology. The oldest skeletons aged to 60 plus years refuting early death conjectures of ancient man. Truly an amazing find by a backhoe operator clearing a muck pond, who noticed “rocks” that turned out to be skulls!

http://www.nbbd.com/godo/history/windover/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windover_Archaeological_Site


4 posted on 08/23/2013 6:46:20 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SunkenCiv

Genetic investigation would be very interesting as this body may be pre-celtic. Who were these people?


6 posted on 08/23/2013 6:56:58 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SunkenCiv

It would be great if we could start getting some DNA from these finds — maybe the bone marrow — especially the Irish finds. I’d be interested in the results from comparing it to modern lines.


9 posted on 08/23/2013 7:45:57 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SunkenCiv

More on the FL Windover Bog discovery:

The Windover Bog Peopole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teh90FTIKec

and regarding the DNA, which all samples contained European like DNA...speculating they came across the much reduced in width Atlantic ocean (Ice Age reduced seas):

DNA of the Windover Bog People: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbayBEbIEwc


12 posted on 08/23/2013 8:15:29 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SunkenCiv
The body was unearthed in the Cúl na Móna bog in Cashel in 2011 by a Bord na Móna worker operating a milling machine.

Probably a Bridgeport Milling machine.

15 posted on 08/23/2013 8:45:29 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SunkenCiv

Amazing. County Laois was formerly known as County Queens - and I have great great great grandparents on my paternal side that are from that county ...


17 posted on 08/23/2013 9:27:09 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

What I would like to see is DNA sequencing of THESE Titusville, FL Windover bog people vs. “celtic” bog people of this Laois find. We might be surprised to learn....shock of shocks (not— see: Kennewick Man) that so called Europeans (maybe— more precisely Celtic peoples as in most of the Celtic migration— Gaul to Spanish peninsula to Ireland to Scotland) were already in N. America when the “land bridge” “native-Americans” crossed over from Siberia.

The genetics of all this is freaking out the PC crowd and the PC industry of native-American “here first” claims. You know, the indian casinos then are just political payoff for the “genocide” from the “whites”. When what ought to happen is we find descendents from the European genetic tribes that these “native Americans” wiped out in THEIR genocide, and uh- give them the casinos LOL!!.

There is no imprimatur to do anything like this, politically— far better for the dems to advocate open immigration and the creation of Aztlan from a “pure” toltec/olmec heritage of damned cannibals who wiped out the Anasazi. No problem for dems and rinos who specialize in cannibalization— they eat their own especially targeting the dwindling middle class. Rant off— no more coffee LOL.


26 posted on 08/24/2013 9:49:53 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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