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To: fwdude

I disagree.

This is a defining moment in our nation’s history.

The GOP is on the sidelines.

I completely disagree with the theory that the GOP should remain on the sidelines.

US healthcare has lots of problem. BIG BIG problems.

If we simply are on the sidelines complaining about the administration’s approach, we are a part of those problems.

GOP get with it.

What do you propose, if you oppose Obamacare?

It is fine to be opposed to Obamacare.

But. This is the critical other half of the issue?

WITH WHAT?

Millions of Americans are not covered currently.

That is why Democrats got so far. Because the current system is just as big of a problem, as what Democrats are proposing.

What is the GOP for?


16 posted on 08/15/2013 7:45:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The Republican Party needs to advocate for free market solutions and absolutely not fall into the trap of putting forward a plan that increases the size, scope and power of government in unconstitutional ways.


22 posted on 08/15/2013 7:53:09 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What do you propose, if you oppose Obamacare?

What I propose is what all true conservatives propose; let the market determine healthcare availability and costs. The mess we have now is DIRECTLY caused by government meddling.

But, such a "do nothing" approach, although the most sane and effective, will be cast exactly as "do nothing heartlessness." So, are we going to let the radical Left dictate what we "do?" Are we going to give people unearned, undeserved goodies just because the left says we should?

That being said, one thing different that conservatives can propose is opening up the markets even more by allowing insurance shopping interstate. The competition would drive down prices immensely. But, this has already been proposed, with the Left screeching about the solution nevertheless.

26 posted on 08/15/2013 7:55:31 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Millions of Americans are not covered currently.

So? Is this an unprecedented "tragedy?" Absolutely not. Many more were uninsured in the past, and we made it very well to the future.

Many are not covered, by their own choice! Many make bad decisions, the ramifications of which more responsible Americans shouldn't pay for. Show me some poor soul who "can't afford health insurance" and I'll show you a mental juvenile who can't do without his smartphone, his $159 monthly cable t.v./internet service, his new $5,000 rims for his pimpmobile, a $200k house that he can't really afford, and thousands spent on body piercings and tattoos, cigarettes, and booze.

30 posted on 08/15/2013 8:01:52 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
US healthcare has lots of problem. BIG BIG problems.

It does. Just one example from a few days ago in the family (this took place in Mumbai, India for a cost comparison): My wife's sister had a chunk of concrete fall on her head, was semi-conscious for a while, taken by a friend to the ER, was stapled up and presented with a bill...for SIXTY DOLLARS equivalent. What would this have cost here $6,000, $12,000? 100X or 200X more here? Conceivably even more - I saw a bill for an ankle fracture for over $100,000.

61 posted on 08/15/2013 9:18:23 AM PDT by steve86 (Thank you for your prayers for Margaret!)
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