Posted on 08/09/2013 8:07:18 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama
If the 2016 Republican Primary was held today (assuming We the Conservatives don't form a third party out of disgust), who would you like to see as the nominee to face Hitlery Clinton ?
A Scott Walker/Ted Cruz ticket sounds good at the moment.
I am with you! Cruz is the man.
1. Would Scott Walker win his home state ?
2. Would Rand Paul be stuck with his father’s baggage ?
3. To the best of my knowledge, Cruz would eligible, (see the question about McCain’s eligibilty.) but you can bet the racist Dhimmicrats and their allies in the media would attempt to turn Cruz's candidacy into a circus. Again, let me be clear: I would gladly vote for any of them. I'm just looking at all the angles.
You have a good point.
Fine by me!
Me: I simply don’t trust any of the “big names” in the GOP.
(Except perhaps Cruz, and IIUC he’s not technically eligible.)
You forgot Gary Johnson.
Isn’t Ted’s situation similar to McLame’s ? (who was born in the Panama Canal zone.)
No, it doesn't.
That would be like saying "Because person X got away with murder, I can murder whoever I want w/o repercussion."
My complaint about Gary Johnson is his ideas on foreign policy. Too much like Ron Paul’s for my taste.
At the same time, he was a fantastic governor.
I believe so… but, then again, I suspect 2008 (and 2012, to a lesser extent) was an offering of two illegitimate candidates for the purpose of [at some later date] weakening the Natural Born Citizen clause via precedent.
It may just be my cynicism, but looking into some of the crap that was pulled it's what makes sense to me.
Yes he was; I know because he was my governor! :)
Also a testament to how good he is: he was re-elected even when NM was heavily democrat leaning and he left office w/ a budget-surplus (inheriting a deficit, IIRC).
My complaint about Gary Johnson is his ideas on foreign policy. Too much like Ron Pauls for my taste.
I honestly don't get that complaint: isn't the whole idea of having congressional involvement w/ cabinet positions to provide a moderating influence on "kooky ideas"?
Cruz is a Constitutional scholar. I don’t think he’d throw his name out there (which he has kind of done) if he knew he wasn’t eligible.That’s my theory.
I do know this: He would run away with his home state of Texas without even trying. (Which is something I’m not so sure about with Scott Walker. Not a knock against him, but Wisconsin has gone for the Kenyan Fuhrer in ‘08 and ‘12.) We absolutely can’t win with a candidate who can’t win his home state.
Doesn’t matter. 0bama owns the media and the NSA/DOJ who gets intelligence for Hillary, and changes votes electronically for Hillary.. and the IRS/FEC is STILL targeting conservatives (NO CHANGE AND CONGRESS DOESN’T GIVE A SH!T). Think 2012 all over again. Pessimistic? REALISTIC!
“I honestly don’t get that complaint: isn’t the whole idea of having congressional involvement w/ cabinet positions to provide a moderating influence on ‘kooky ideas’?”
Something to consider, that’s for sure. How is he on pro-life and immigration issues ? A lot of libertarians sound like liberals when it comes to those issues.
I like Gary Johnson. Thinking back, I liked him better than Mitt Trotsky (who got my vote pretty much against my will.)
IIRC, he thinks it should be a State issue and not Fed. {That's the way it was before Roe v. Wade.}
That’s a little more of a realistic response than I would like, but I can’t discount what you’re saying, either. (Perhaps that’s where “internal polling” comes from.)
+1
Thought provoking response to say the least.
I don’t see abortion as a States Right issue since the unborn baby’s rights are being violated by his or her murder, but that’s just me. However, repealing Roe v. Wade wouldn’t make abortion illegal, either. The issue would be kicked back down to States.
Sarah Palin!!!
It’s so too bad every thread about Ted Cruz turns into this.
Ted Cruz himself has been asked about this absurdity that being born in Canada to an American mother who was working there at the time makes him ineligible to run for President.
Ted Cruz opined that natural born citizen does NOT mean born on U.S. soil but means, a citizen WHEN BORN, which he views as the opposite of becoming a citizen by going through a naturalization process.
Natural born vs. naturalized.
That’s the positioning of the two kinds of citizenship, per Cruz himself.
It really has nothing to do with Obama. With or without Obama, Cruz would say the same thing about himself.
You will find people here who will claim that Ted Cruz is a Canadian. You will even find people who will claim that he is CUBAN. Oh yes...because his father was born in Cuba and immigrated to America before marrying his mother here. I’ll just throw this into the silliness pot - they have him being so foreign that he isn’t an American AT ALL. So it’s not even needed to claim he’s not natural born (in their view of natural born) because he’s not even American.
I stick with what Cruz says about himself. He has plenty of company from legal scholars, but there are always these outliers...
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