Posted on 08/08/2013 7:38:34 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
She should have heeded the advice of Chris Rock on How not to get your ass kicked by the police. She broke rules 1 and 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
Actually, no!
Are we all looking at the same video?
I have little sympathy for those who get caught and then get a beating.
I'm with you, screw the Constitution! Cops should be judge, jury and executioner!
I agree with you, I simply don’t think what happened here is anything more than it appears.
An entitled thief decided she was too special to be arrested, and decided to bite a cop, and predictably, he didn’t like being bit.
I’m not a cop or a cop apologist, but I call it like I see it. She was out stealing, she had an attitude, she bit the cop...all things that she had the power to avoid.
Should a cop beat you for having an attitude? No...but if you get lippy with him when he tells you that you’re under arrest he is going to take you into custody, but if you cooperate like an adult (a thieving adult, but an adult regardless) you can simply stand up and turn around.
And if you bite him, he has the right to use force to make you comply.
If he didn’t, cops would be entirely useless, since everyone would just walk away from arrests while shouting insults over their shoulder. What a fine system that would be.
I think some of you don’t realize the possible consequences of being bitten.
It isn’t the physical damage so much as the diseases you’re possibly exposed to. Since cops usually deal with the worst elements of society, and those people tend to be diseased at a higher rate...biting someone has a much higher potential impact than just getting a few stitches.
How would you like not being able to make love to your wife for 6 months to a year because of the possibility of having been infected? How would you like worrying about your health for that same time and having to take tests over and over to assure yourself that you’re clean?
Biting someone is much more than just drawing blood, it is the potential exchange of fluids and all that implies.
Yes, he was wearing gloves...but they’re not magic gloves. Feel free to don gloves and let someone with HIV bite away at you...it would still scare you and prey on your mind.
That’s what the thief says.
So...you reckon he was punching her, and after she bit him...he stopped? So the out of control cop was beating her for no real reason...and when she really gave him a reason, he decided it was enough?
That doesn’t even make sense. It is rather amusing though.
The video, that is heavily edited, shows him punching her twice with his right hand with the left hand apparently being unavailable. Then he gives her a one two.
Which lends support to his claim that she was biting his hand.
Should he have got in the last punch? Nope. But I bet you’d get in a couple more after you made me quit chomping on your finger, wouldn’t you? Now combine that with her being a habitual thief who resisted arrest and then assaulted the cop and I simply don’t care. Don’t bite someone if you don’t want them to hit you. All of this was within her power to avoid. She could have not stolen, she could have complied with arrest, and she could have not bitten him.
You seem to have avoided a lot of my more inconvenient questions. Please do answer how wounding someone slightly who is beating you gets them to stop, rather than truly enraging them.
There is no secret. It is clear as day, since people appear to warp around the room. You just don’t want to acknowledge it.
Can you tell me exactly how the woman in red moves 5 feet instantly without being seen by the camera? And how a door closes that was never shown being opened?
No?
What is clear is that the cop gave her a lawful order, and she replied defiantly as evidenced by her leaning forward and shouting. He then began to take her into custody. What would you do? You won’t answer...would you just walk away? Call it even?
” You speculated it was because she was talking on her phone?
Do you have audio of this event? I didn’t hear any audio...Could you provide that?”
Nope...but I can provide her own words.
‘I don’t think the police were really thrilled that a white woman was calling a black man for help, especially one that they already weren’t fond of,’ she said.
Is that good enough? The racist cops didn’t like her talking to her Black boyfriend (although how they knew who she was talking to is somehow left out) so they beat her. That is what you believe, right?
She admits she was “calling someone for help” while being detained. Do you reckon that’s the right thing to do when the cops are about to arrest you?
And what kind of help was she expecting, anyway?
Shoplifting, being defiant, calling someone for help...all while the cops are trying to lawfully arrest you.
She didn’t do anything at all, did she?
He was three feet away.
I suspect he was being a decent guy and told her to stand up and turn around.
But you see what you want to see, not what is actually there.
The thief is probably telling the truth, and the cop is probably the liar...after all, one is proven by the courts to be dishonest, while we have no reason other than prejudice to disbelieve the cop.
I’m glad when we picked sides you went with the habitual thief who takes her children with her to steal.
Avoiding debate just means you let the other side win by default.
I don’t mind.
You’re free to believe the habitual thief who goes stealing with her child.
After all...why would she lie?
I’ll believe the video and the cop.
Do you?
I like that you’re clearly avoiding my questions while I knock all of your softballs right out of the park.
What I do have is video of the cop saying something in his cop like way, to which she defiantly replies, and then he takes her into custody.
You can be obtuse if you wish...I like that there is a record of it here. We both know what we saw.
It doesn’t take much imagination to put it together...cop says something in a cop attitude, she yells a monosyllable back while leaning forward, he then takes her into custody.
Easy peasy.
So you believe it was just regular old misogyny towards an uppity thief rather than racism?
Got it.
‘I don’t think the police were really thrilled that a white woman was calling a black man for help, especially one that they already weren’t fond of,’ she said.
I’m surprised...I’d have thought you’d support her claims of racism too instead of just plain ole woman hating.
Trayvon was killed for walking, Rodney was beat for being Black...and the Duke Lacrosse boys...well they did something.
The narrative...they’re parroting it.
The woman already claimed it was racism that made them do it. The thief lovers here apparently don’t know how to respond to that little tidbit of info.
‘I don’t think the police were really thrilled that a white woman was calling a black man for help, especially one that they already weren’t fond of,’ she said.’
They did it because she was calling a Black man, something which the cops magically knew.
Or they did it because they hate women.
Anything but they did it because a habitual thief resisted arrest with violence.
There is video showing the cops calmly saying something to the thief.
At which point she leans forward and either yells or spits.
A reasonable person would conclude she had just responded to being told to stand up or get off the phone with defiance.
She began biting after they physically took her into custody.
Complying would have avoided all of it. You’d have us believe that the cops stormed into the room and started punching.
I don’t have much sympathy for thieves, and I don’t especially care if they get a few lumps while resisting and assaulting cops. There was an easy way out and she decided to avoid it.
It is funny that you’re demanding answers for the video while adamantly denying any editing has taken place. Someone should inform science that the red shirted woman has discovered teleportation.
If only the ‘she’ you keep referring to wasn’t a habitual thief, convicted in court, caught shoplifting again after this incident.
Then your insistence on taking her words as the truth would be so much more effective.
Let’s see...cop versus thief...thief versus video...I think I’ll side with the cop and the video.
You can hang the thieving albatross around your neck. I don’t mind at all.
Why...I bet you’d let her stay in your house even, if she told you that she wouldn’t steal anymore. Why would she lie?
There is a video showing her being non-compliant with the police after being caught red handed with stolen items.
You have some weird delusion that a cop taking a resisting criminal into custody is ‘attacking’ them and that they can only physically take them into custody if they attack the cops first.
That isn’t how it works. Stand up and turn around when you’re told, or be physically taken into custody. And if you then fight the cops, they’re going to get violent too.
But you know that...you just like to argue, even when the hill you’ve chosen to die on is filled with thieves and community organizers blaming racism for her getting caught shoplifting.
I like how you keep insisting that the video isn’t edited.
It destroys your credibility more surely than I ever could.
Bet you won’t answer the following question.
http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=11556885
Why does the person in the dark suit and the person in the red shirt suddenly warp across the room at 00:18 of the video, the video linked to in post one?
Quick now, avoid the question and keep insisting the video is uncut. That way the honest people can check for themselves and know the value of your words.
I pray your moniker is wrong, but I fear your moniker to be prescient.
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The video evidence is not sufficient to cast judgement against the officers...
But it is enough to cast judgement on a citizen?
O.O.C. (out of control).
I see a big pay day for an attorney out there.
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An entitled thief decided she was too special to be arrested, and decided to bite a cop, and predictably, he didn’t like being bit.
Obvioulsy, she's a witch. How else would she bite his finger from across the room?
Burn her. BURN HER!
Really getting desperate, I see.
Don’t care what knee jerk aspersions you try to cast upon me, what they did was heinous.
If you’re okay with it, that’s on you.
Perhaps you might try calling me a pETA loving, tree hugging liberal, next.
So far, the brush you’re trying to paint me with has been woefully narrow.
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