Thank you for the reply.
I went out and looked through the bushes real good. I don’t have any of the red canes but the buds and blooms look deformed like some of the photos.
I don’t have yellow and dropping leaves, so I had thought it wasn’t black spot. But looking closer I can see what looks like a black mildew on some of the leaves. The leaves are very dark green, so it’s hard to see.
Could that still be black spot? Is wettable sulfur the best thing for that? I really want to save the bushes because they are so carefree (usually), they require little watering and really put on a stunning show nearly year round.
Thanks for any help/suggestions that you can offer.