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To: matginzac
Exactly...and rumor (or rumour...ahem) has it the queen and Lady Thatcher did not get along (or “get on”) because HM isn’t very socially conservative.

No, they didn't get along at first, but it had nothing to do with politics. The Queen is, actually, from what I have seen a social conservative, but she has to be apolitical constitutionally, and she's generally got on well with Labor Prime Ministers and conservative ones. Something I've noticed in my dealings with the Royal Family is that what they are above all else is patriots - utterly dedicated to their country - and that is so ingrained with them, that they tend to assume other people are the same way unless they prove otherwise. So they will believe that even those who disagree with them, sincerely want what is best for their country, and they respect that. But, anyway, eventually the Queen and Baroness Thatcher actually did become friends - the Queen gave Lady Thatcher two of Britain's highest Honours by making her a Lady Companion of the Garter, and a member of the Order or Merit. While most British honours are now given by the Queen on the advice of her government (that is, while she officially hands them out, the Prime Minister actually decides and 'recommends' people), those two are still entirely the decision of the Monarch - she is the only person who decides who gets them. Giving both of them to Lady Thatcher is a profound act of respect.

HM just endorsed (or sanctified or encapsulated...whatever) “gay marriage” in the UK so she has some sort of “role” in establishing law, albeit, for show, maybe.

As I've said, she didn't endorse it in any way. She gave Royal Assent as required under British constitutional law. She can only refuse Royal Assent if she judges a law raises constitutional concerns, and by a standard laid down by George V in 1914 (the last time a Monarch considered doing it), that it should only be done based on "convincing evidence that it would avert a national disaster."

89 posted on 07/22/2013 2:16:20 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Bless you but doesn’t “gay marriage” fall under those auspices?
I think it does but who am I?
I can fault her for doing this, yes, I can.
Lovely that she honored Lady Thatcher -shows she is a smart woman because Thatcher really honored royalty during her time and, I believe , shored it up when needed.
While HM is a patriot, I agree, and her sense of duty is admirable, her acquiescence to abnormal social developments isn’t what her country and society in the UK need. Quite the contrary...
One of the interesting “fads” it seems the Royal Family have embraced is that of giving Islamists a pass when it comes to holding hostage British society. Even after the horrific beheading of a serving British soldier and Islamic protests in the small town that honors the British war dead with parades ( I forget the name of this town).
Where is the “patriotic” royal family as an antidote to this hate???
Don’t get me wrong, I am a student of British history and literature, both good and bad, but I hate hypocrisy and snobbery and feel you can’t have it both ways.
Sorry about the rant but you touched a nerve! Nevertheless, enjoy the moment of the birth of an heir to your throne...


90 posted on 07/22/2013 2:59:51 PM PDT by matginzac
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