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Mozilla Comes under Attack - and of Age
ComputerWorld UK ^ | 18 July 2013 | Glyn Moody

Posted on 07/21/2013 12:03:09 PM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 07/21/2013 12:03:09 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

2 posted on 07/21/2013 12:03:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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“In some markets, Adblock Plus is responsible for stopping as much as 50 percent of mainstream publishers’ ads,”

That’s great because I use their add-on AdBlock, along with Self Destructing Cookies as a deadly combo LOL


3 posted on 07/21/2013 12:10:29 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: ShadowAce
Nothing like listening to the wails and lamentations of buggy whip manufacturers. It sounds like freedom.

/johnny

4 posted on 07/21/2013 12:10:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ShadowAce
It's called a Personal Computer (none of that tablet, smart-ass cracka phone for me).

I expect to be able to control both the horizontal and the vertical, simultaneously.

5 posted on 07/21/2013 12:12:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ShadowAce

EU. Abolish.


6 posted on 07/21/2013 12:17:39 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: ShadowAce

Advertisers will just demand that web sites using their ads install gateway software to make their cookies appear local, along with software that will block displaying content if ads are blocked.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 12:23:50 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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The user effectively has been granted a right to engage in a commercial transaction without anyone knowing anything about that transaction, including the other party to the transaction. This social decision carries costs.

That's exactly how most brick-and-mortar transactions work. Entering the store in and of itself isn't value I have to tender value in exchange for. If I want a gallon of milk, that IS value, but the only value I must offer in exchange is the posted price of the milk, in money, not personal information.

Using traditional commerce as an analogy is a mistake for these people. The stores trying to hop onto the spy-on-your-customer bandwagon with loyalty cards are the ones who are out of order, not the customer who expects his purchase to be anonymous as it historically has been. And -- there are plenty of stores that don't insult the dignity and intelligence of their customer base in that way, including the bane of any liberal, Wal*Mart, and a store that I suspect is disproportionately staffed and patronized by liberals, Trader Joes.

8 posted on 07/21/2013 12:24:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Advertisers will just demand that web sites using their ads install gateway software to make their cookies appear local, along with software that will block displaying content if ads are blocked.

Which the browser makers could hopefully defeat by pretending to accept them and/or accepting them for the duration of browsing that site and then delete them, which would limit their snoop value.

9 posted on 07/21/2013 12:28:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Unfortunately you are right. That will take a while to become the norm, but it’s already happening some.

The reverse will also happen in response, where ads (if they can be identified as ads) will be accessed but not actually displayed. It will keep the display looking clean, but will tax connections with ad traffic anyway, and will pass through tracking information to the advertisers. They won’t get any clicks though!


10 posted on 07/21/2013 12:29:28 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: ShadowAce

Somebody’s got to pay for “free” Internet, no? Let the advertisers do it, you don’t have to take the bait. I never do.


11 posted on 07/21/2013 12:30:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Still Thinking

It will be an arms race between ad blockers, and ad makers who will try to make it hard for software to distinguish ads from content.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 12:34:57 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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Mozilla - the antithesis of the Goggle-Micrsoft-Apple-FB-et-al business paradigm - a privatized big brother,


13 posted on 07/21/2013 1:34:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Revolting cat!

I almost always use FireFox with AdBlock & NoScript, and am always shocked when I use IE. The pages are just covered up with ads! Flashing, blinking, loading, using up bandwidth that I pay to use.

Go Mozilla!!!


14 posted on 07/21/2013 2:34:53 PM PDT by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Who has “free” Internet? I pay for mine. I don’t want uninvited ads on bandwidth I paid for.


15 posted on 07/21/2013 3:51:35 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Well, I’m not talking about ad-blocking so much as cookie blocking, which is what the original article was up in arms about. I don’t see how they can make cookies indistinguishable from content (although, while I am a programmer, I don’t know much about web standards).


16 posted on 07/21/2013 3:58:59 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

No, Captain Obvious, you are paying for the connection to Internet. What’s then displayed on the screen is “free”.


17 posted on 07/21/2013 4:03:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: max americana

Ghostery works pretty well, also.


18 posted on 07/21/2013 4:37:55 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Revolting cat!
You mean like cable TV? I only pay for the connection?

If those people want my business, then they put content on the web. Otherwise, I don't know about them, and they get no business. The ads are just fluff that I block out.

19 posted on 07/21/2013 6:05:56 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Cable TV, you pay for content and the connection. Internet we pay for connection and the content from the provider whatever that might be. Free content can be had at restaurants, cafes, libraries, Greyhound bus terminals. I’m not against blocking ads, especially since I’m seeing ads for local businesses when I visit foreign sites. But with popup blocking working most of the time, I can tolerate it all. I’ve also found that SUPERAntiSpyware program, run a couple of times a week, will zap hundreds of ad cookies that other spyware programs leave alone.


20 posted on 07/21/2013 6:15:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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