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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; TXnMA; marron; metmom; hosepipe; spirited irish
Oh, Boy . . . here we go.

Doubtful, dear friend and brother in Christ. Ever since the Great Exodus of 2006, there are very few articulate Neo-Darwinists still hanging around FR to "dialogue" with.

More's the pity: We lost some great collaborators with serious scientific credentials back then. But they all left, en masse, in a great huff because "creationists are superstitious morons" and thus not worth their time of day to talk to.

Since then, I've been wondering who the "superstitious morons" actually are. The one thing these dear departed all seemed to agree on is what looks to me like a superstitious, mythical belief in the power of matter to single-handedly bootstrap itself into life and mind, through the alleged power of random variation and natural selection.

It's said that science as we know it today began in alchemy, in magical practices. So, what's so different today, if matter itself transmutes just like "base metals into gold," assuming the proper "magical action" has been invoked?

That is, the supposition here is that the inorganic "evolves" into the organic quite "naturally" — by means of the "magical operations" of random mutation and natural selection, against the background of purely materialist presuppositions hooking up with "natural laws." (From whence were they introduced? That is, where did "natural laws," or the (more reductive) laws of physics come from, that a magician can manipulate to get his desired result?)

Oh well.... Let the dreamers dream, I suppose. It seems one cannot wake them up. They simply prefer to stay asleep.

Thanks for the ping, dear brother!

17 posted on 07/17/2013 3:10:08 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: betty boop; YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; TXnMA; marron; metmom; hosepipe

betty: they all left, en masse, in a great huff because “creationists are superstitious morons” and thus not worth their time of day to talk to.

Spirited: Truth is a very bitter pill for proud Darwinists and fellow travelers who in rejecting our Lord, the Divine Source of life and mind and relentlessly ridiculing us as superstitious morons only to belatedly discover that their own position can neither account for conscious life nor soul/spirit.

For over one-hundred years alchemists (materialists) have been combining lifeless chemicals in the vain hope that life would finally emerge. But it hasn’t and many materialists are quietly looking to “aliens” from deep-space as the bearers of life who seeded our planet long ago and have been overseeing our evolution ever since. Others are quietly crossing over from physical materialism to mystical materialism (pantheism).


18 posted on 07/17/2013 4:22:22 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: betty boop; YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; TXnMA; marron; metmom; spirited irish

Oh well.... Let the dreamers dream, I suppose. It seems one cannot wake them up. They simply prefer to stay asleep.


Takes faith to believe in a God you’ve never seen, actually nobody you know has ever seen..

Takes faith to believe in Darwin’s tale of mystical beliefs too..

They don’t call their believe religion but it is anyway..
They bought Darwins Tale as thoroughly as any christian bought their tale..

Having faith is a virtue I think....
Darwinism is as religious as Buddism, Hinduism, the Tao, or any version of Christianity.. or even the psuedo religion of Islam.. which is basically a scam..

Talking to a Darwinist is as fruitful as talking to a Jehovas Witness.. they both have bought their versions of things completely.. and adjusted everything to it..

I dont think they ARE asleep... thy are awake.. but have bought the narrative of a tale as completely as anyone in any religion..

You gotta believe something.. Darwin is an option..
They believe that is true as completely as any christian believes in Jesus..

Could be “being human” is all about proving what you are willing to accept as reality..
Accusing Darwinist’s of having faith makes for some interesting conversation..


21 posted on 07/17/2013 6:13:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop; spirited irish
Ever since the Great Exodus of 2006, there are very few articulate Neo-Darwinists still hanging around FR

Granted, the number and quality of our opposition has slipped a bit ever since many of our Science friends discovered that not all of us could be drawn off into futile arguments over scientific minutiae, but instead stood our ground, insisting that great philosophic and religious principles are not cast on such minutiae.

. . . they all left, en masse, in a great huff because “creationists are superstitious morons” and thus not worth their time of day . . .

Any port in a storm . . . any excuse in a pinch. A great huff beats admitting that command of facts do not lead to achieving great insights irrelevant to those facts.

23 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:53 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: betty boop
We lost some great collaborators with serious scientific credentials back then.

I truly miss many of them though I don't miss the noisy cheering squad that followed them around.

Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. - Prov 27:17


27 posted on 07/17/2013 8:32:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
But they all left, en masse, in a great huff because "creationists are superstitious morons" and thus not worth their time of day to talk to.

Maybe some did. Maybe some left because they got tired of being called atheists or told their faith was insufficient because they accepted the theory of evolution. Others because they didn't like being called followers of Marx and Mao. Still others because no matter how many times they explained that the theory of evolution does not depend on an explanation of the origin of life, people still demanded they come up with one. And then there are the overt statements that people who accept evolutionary theory don't belong on Free Republic.

It's not exactly a conducive environment for scientific discussion.

30 posted on 07/18/2013 6:49:17 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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