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To: EinNYC

...and the beauty of Florida law is that none of that matters one whit; once Treyvon started trying to kill Zimmerman, that’s when he shot the 180 guy on top of him. And I’m sure if you go examine Treyvon’s youtube history, you’ll see plenty of videos of black people jumping white guys and beating the heck out of them.

But hey, why let some inconvenient facts get in the way. Like Al Gore speaking at a theatre in a town which just experienced record lows, he’ll go on about something totally unrelated to reality. Was he profiled? Yes, he’s a black guy walking in a gated community, dressed like a gangster, and was treated exactly how he presented himself to the world.

He came back and stalked Zimmerman and jumped him. Who called 911? Zimmerman did. Who was still on the phone with 911? Zimmerman.

Yet we are to discount credible testimony backed up with science and instead revert to the emperor’s new clothes and say how wonderful they are, because some personality spews out something totally unrelated to law and the facts of the case.

Florida law is really simple: You bring deadly force to a battle, then it is open season on you by anyone carrying a gun. Don’t like it? Then don’t beat on people. It really is that simple.


25 posted on 07/11/2013 11:48:20 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu
Florida law is really simple: You bring deadly force to a battle, then it is open season on you by anyone carrying a gun. Don’t like it? Then don’t beat on people. It really is that simple.

Actually, it's not quite that simple. There are multiple exceptions, as there should be.

As in, if you are in the process of committing a violent felony, such as robbery, and are confronted with deadly force in reply, you cannot use self-defense to justify your homicide.

IOW, if I break into your home, and you pull a gun or baseball bat to defend yourself, if I kill you I cannot claim self-defense.

I understand and in general agree with the rationale behind Stand Your Ground laws.

But they have serious problems, as in the fact that in many cases it is difficult or impossible to define which party to a confrontation was the aggressor. It should not be automatically assumed that the dead guy was the perp and not the victim.

That just gives someone an incentive to finish off his opponent.

35 posted on 07/12/2013 4:51:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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