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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: SteveH

It’s under Events.

http://www.kogym.com/zimmerman.htm


1,801 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:42 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Toespi
I've never seen or heard of it as an attorney. (Disclaimer - I don't practice crim law, nor am I licensed in Florida)

This REALLY pisses me off and I wouldn't be shocked to see this covered in appeals if God forbid GZ is convicted.

1,802 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:42 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: CityCenter

Thanks a lot for that image that will scar me for life.


1,803 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:45 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Wallace T.

My apologies, but I have to state that your info is rather funny. We know it was Rino Bush, so the fact that he appointed her kinda fits the whole issue.

Bush - hispanics are more furtile. bwhwhahahah


1,804 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:46 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: SteveH

go to events then Zimmerman its there


1,805 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: AppyPappy
He should claim that a 7 year-old broke into the site and probably posted the ad

LMAO

1,806 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:07 PM PDT by tioga
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To: UCANSEE2

Heckuva good synopsis! Concise, yet accurate! LOL


1,807 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: BunnySlippers
State always gets two bites at the apple with a rebuttal as they have the burden of proof. Defense only gets their defense case.
1,808 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:16 PM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: AppyPappy

You would be right. By Judicial admission, one can’t assume that the owner of a phone, website, etc. is responsible for the content.


1,809 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:24 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

The insert was not an advertisement, it was instructional for all the requests the gym has been flooded with regarding the program of training Zimmerman had. The prosecution (including the judge cow who is working for the prosecution) has been allowed to pop in a snipe. One can only hope the Jury members see the unjustice of this kangaroo scam.


1,810 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: machogirl

I don’t know if it was Photoshop or not, but I think the appearance of the page could be easily explained. If he was getting a ton of inquiries from a bunch of people asking about Zimmerman, this may be nothing more than a way of separating the morbidly curious from legitimate business-oriented inquiries. Given his testimony regarding Zimmerman’s condition and progress, it makes zero sense to think it would form the basis for marketing a specific fitness regimen.


1,811 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:35 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: AppyPappy
He should claim that a 7 year-old broke into the site and probably posted the ad

Ha!

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1,812 posted on 07/10/2013 1:10:37 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: House Atreides; hummingbird
“This Guy is so smarmy it’s almost comical. I think he’s bought into the idea he ‘sounds’ like Kevin Costner.

Yes, I get the idea that he has the last half hour of Oliver Stone's JFK permanently cued up on his DVR and he watches it endlessly.

1,813 posted on 07/10/2013 1:11:52 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: hoosiermama

Not close — the opposite end of the complex from her residence.


1,814 posted on 07/10/2013 1:12:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: fatima

I’m in Winter Park which is about equal distance from Sanford to the south (Oviedo is east of Sanford). I have not seen anyone yet but I challenge them to believe they have the upper hand in this town as they’ll be in for a hugely rude awakening.


1,815 posted on 07/10/2013 1:12:01 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: tioga

What you see going on is this:

Defense is trying to do things now that they were denied (unfairly) previously.

Prosecution is trying to do things now that they were required to do previously.


1,816 posted on 07/10/2013 1:12:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Mouton

Who is delivering the 30 pieces of silver to this POS judge.


1,817 posted on 07/10/2013 1:12:46 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: machogirl
You would be right. By Judicial admission, one can’t assume that the owner of a phone, website, etc. is responsible for the content.

Ha ! ... they really should stick that back in her face as an argument in the alternative

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1,818 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:06 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: EnquiringMind

4:12

Bruce at WFTV:
We’ve been told that there was more to the information on the website earlier today and that it has changed.


1,819 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:11 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

They changed it that fast.


1,820 posted on 07/10/2013 1:13:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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