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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Right! As a retired judge he would know better.


1,641 posted on 07/10/2013 12:35:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RummyChick

This won’t be quite the same thing as harrassing little old ladies at polling places...


1,642 posted on 07/10/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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He will not testify —


1,643 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Asking Z if he is freely deciding to NOT testify.


1,644 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:06 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: RummyChick
NAACP National Convention “WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED”
2013 Annual Convention, July 13 – 17, 2013, Orlando, Florida

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1,645 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:11 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: All

Yippee! GZ won’t testify!


1,646 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:17 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: denydenydeny; Velvet_Jones

Yes, a judge always asks the defendant in a criminal case whether or not he wants to testify on his own behalf. It’s standard procedure. However, that usually happens when the Defense is finished putting on its case and normally the judge gives the defendant’s attorneys notice ahead of time that she is going to formally ask the defendant.

Judge Nelson did not do that just a bit ago. GZ had no idea she was going to ask him. He was clearly unprepared to answer and was denied the opportunity to consult with his attorneys on the matter.

Just before this last recess, Judge Nelson informed MOM and West that she would soon be formally asking GZ if he wanted to testify, which is how it should have been handled in the first place.


1,647 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: don-o

TS Chantal is falling apart. Maybe significant rain. Wind not an issue.


1,648 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Good! He is not to testify. No need to do so. His Hannity interview was enough.


1,649 posted on 07/10/2013 12:36:56 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: SteveH

They’re already attacking her on Twitter


1,650 posted on 07/10/2013 12:37:00 PM PDT by DrewsMum (If the boy was high, Zimmerman gonna fly ---Bob Charles, Twitter)
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To: toldyou
I don’t know how to post photos here.

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FR Tutorial on posting

You'll learn how in just a few minutes. Good luck

1,651 posted on 07/10/2013 12:37:02 PM PDT by deport
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To: Abigail Adams

OMG. Now are you really, really, really, really sure you don’t want to testify??????


1,652 posted on 07/10/2013 12:37:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: NautiNurse

Here is the rebuttal....two today maybe one tomorrow.


1,653 posted on 07/10/2013 12:37:46 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

O’Mara now arguing Judgment of Acquittal


1,654 posted on 07/10/2013 12:37:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sheikdetailfeather

MOM asking for JOA


1,655 posted on 07/10/2013 12:38:03 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: DrewsMum

Evil people....


1,656 posted on 07/10/2013 12:38:44 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Nervous Tick

What no HALF_LIMIT ?


1,657 posted on 07/10/2013 12:39:07 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: toldyou
I don’t know how to post photos here. Just found this (below) on facebook when I searched for “New Black Panther Party.”

I don't doubt that Shazzam would advocate this, but I bet he's sit in the background and get his gangbangers to do the deed. Which, of course, WILL be met with deadly force. 'Round these parts, we don't take kindly to arsonists and thugs.

1,658 posted on 07/10/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: SteveH

Z is guilty since he is not taking the stand in his own defense?


The members of the jury don’t live in a vacuum, they have watched other trials on TV and know if the defendant TAKES the stand in his own defense, he can be perceived as guilty.

So it’s a tossup.


1,659 posted on 07/10/2013 12:39:27 PM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Is it SOP to do it before the Jury?


1,660 posted on 07/10/2013 12:39:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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