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To: hobbes1; NeoCaveman; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; secret garden

A+++ I chatted with Paula re the road that we are destined to go down with the loss of religious liberty in light of DOMA. She’s skeptical and sees it as doomsaying, thinks it will never come to that. It was difficult to point out that was a naive perspective, that the gay lobby has an agenda and that they are not reasonable people. She kept chirping separation of church and state. Now this is a faithful Catholic, a physician and extremely bright. She’s not your run of the mill ignoramus, uninformed voter. She thinks churches will not be forced to perform marriages.


35 posted on 07/08/2013 12:35:20 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
She thinks churches will not be forced to perform marriages.

Well, they won't be forced. They'll just have their tax exempt status stripped and they may be sued out of their property.

I guess it is back to the catacombs.

36 posted on 07/08/2013 12:39:42 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: xsmommy

But Obama promised he wouldnt make churches do gay weddings.

(He will let a judge force it)


39 posted on 07/08/2013 1:24:58 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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Not only are they not reasonable people, many are hateful, bitter and intolerant people. I think you are closer to the truth, but if the states continue to assert their rights in the matter and some have civil marriages of just about anybody/thing, churches might be just for those who want religious/sacramental marriage-then I suppose it is up to the church hierarchy of each religion or sect.

Some splinter sects of certain denominations already perform polygamous and same sex “marriage”-I think it is heresy, and want no part of that church. I suppose it could come to that-a schism between denominations/sects that allow unions of something other than 1 man and 1 woman, and those that only perform marriage for the real deal of 1 man and 1 woman...


43 posted on 07/08/2013 1:46:31 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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And bakers should not be forced to make wedding cakes but look what happened in the NW.


44 posted on 07/08/2013 1:48:23 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy

The gov has delayed their own healthcare plans for “certain” people so I feel certain they will also not enforce any provision to close the borders and will forget that pesky sep of church and state when it comes to gay marriage. I totally agree with you that this is the end goal - to basically do away with the strong Christian faith groups in America. They pick and choose what laws or legislation to enforce or forget


49 posted on 07/08/2013 2:09:20 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Liberals chant that ID for voting is racist, so isn't ID for purchasing a gun racist?)
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As soon as someone parrots, separation of church and state....ask them where that comes from.

Much like the idiotic “militia” argument, its a conjuring of liberal ideals into some semblance of reality.


52 posted on 07/10/2013 6:15:22 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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