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Confessions of an Ex-Liberal Gun Owner– Part V & Part VI
July, 7, 2013 | QManRN

Posted on 07/07/2013 11:47:57 AM PDT by Q-ManRN

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To: Navy Patriot

Interesting answer! Genocide tends to be politically motivated at some level since you need manpower to do that and leftists seem to be everywhere which makes that aspect difficult to overcome.


41 posted on 07/07/2013 2:15:14 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: marktwain

I somehow missed the “or islam” qualifier. You are correct.


42 posted on 07/07/2013 2:25:09 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: marktwain
I wished to point out that slaughter of populations was not a new phenomena.

I completely agree, and you have done so with excellent examples.

This rests in the nature of man, and Genocide, as a concept, was created after some civilization of man had occurred, not that we are particularly civilized now.

Thank you for all your efforts on behalf of the armed citizen over the disarmed subject.

43 posted on 07/07/2013 2:31:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Q-ManRN
You are welcome and you are right about sharing your thoughts kindly. I would be fascinated to hear about the points where we disagree

I hope that you won't mind that I have cut and pasted your entire series so far into a Word Document, so that I can share it with some friends of mine. They have finally come to the conclusion that they need a firearm to protect themselves and their five kids after witnessing violence in their neighborhood.

I appreciate your writing style and think that it will help my brother and some others we know understand why it is getting to be not just an option but a necessity for people to be responsible for their own safety and protection. I have been working as a firefighter for approximately 25 years and I know how easily the system becomes overwhelmed.

I do not necessarily disagree with anything that you have written. I have enjoyed and appreciated your observations, I think that they are applicable to most if not the vast majority of the liberal thought process. I think they are especially valuable to those of us who come from a different type of background. But I don't think that they neatly apply to all liberal thought.

For instance... I know liberals who grew up in foreign countries where their experiences were almost unimaginable to those of us who grew up in the United States. Much of what you have written does not apply to them. But as far as helping those of us who grew up in conservative American families understand the thought process of those who grew up in liberal American families I think that your series is both entertaining and valuable.

Many of the comments you have provoked also contain good information, despite a few cudgermugeons who enjoy stirring things up just for the fun of it.

44 posted on 07/07/2013 2:43:06 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Q-ManRN
Owner of gun (except police & soldiers) = Criminal

I disagree. I believe they see themselves as so dependent on govt for their lives they are afraid of gun owners because of their independence. They cannot comprehend our ability to want to protect ourselves.

They are potted plants - waiting to be fed, watered, placed in the Sun, have the weeds (criminals) pulled from their pots, etc.

45 posted on 07/07/2013 2:43:47 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Q-ManRN
*****. Would you say then that the police can legally ignore a riot or other more widespread violation of the law?*****

The police do what ever their commander tells them to do..My dad, and X mounted man told me one day that if the police are doing crap, blame their superior...he's the one that lets them get away with it...

Being a man that had police working under him knew what he was talking about. He also had a superior he worked under, and up the chain it goes.....Crappy, sloppy SWAT crap, are doing what their commander tells them to do...blame goes up the ladder of command.....police are a para-military branch of government...

46 posted on 07/07/2013 2:59:49 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: BBB333; marktwain; Q-ManRN; Navy Patriot; Marie
I write very well.

So you say. Prove it noob. I double dog dare you. Ask again, "Let us see you write something." I will grant you this: Write something just decent and I will relent. Write something less than that...ridicule. Frankly, I can't wait.

47 posted on 07/07/2013 3:30:43 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Keep up the grace and dignity. (I don’t know what the heck is wrong with some of these people. Nothing that you said should garner such hostility. Most of us have been on this journey.)


48 posted on 07/07/2013 4:42:17 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: BBB333

The posts are a good idea but lack detail and depth


49 posted on 07/07/2013 4:54:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Navy Patriot

Civil Genocide?


50 posted on 07/07/2013 4:58:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Q-ManRN
That is a valid point. Thank you. Would you say then that the police can legally ignore a riot or other more widespread violation of the law?

Just curious...

That would largely depend on how you define "legally". Using a strict definition of 'de jure' (of the law) it would be a resounding NO. But if something is done 'de facto' (in fact), and no legal consequences followed thereafter, despite a legal prohibition on the books (the law itself being ignored by those who would otherwise be sworn to enforce it), can you truly say that it is,in fact, illegal?

The history of this country is replete with examples of the aforementioned, from the very founding of the nation, to just yesterday, in one form or another. The 'legal' status of any one of these, far too often, is determined largely in the eye of the beholder...

the infowarrior

51 posted on 07/07/2013 11:27:29 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: gonzo
***He helped me years ago (I think)***

Who are you again? hee hee

52 posted on 07/08/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland; Q-ManRN
"...Who are you again? hee hee..."

Oh my - you've gone feeble again, Bob.

Here's the equation again: gonzo = Myra Breckenridge.

Try to remember the Pitcairn Islands .............................................................................. FRegards

53 posted on 07/08/2013 9:09:14 AM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gonzo
***Try to remember the Pitcairn Islands***

:-D QSL

54 posted on 07/08/2013 9:43:56 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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