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1 posted on 07/05/2013 10:49:35 AM PDT by Borges
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Classical Ping


2 posted on 07/05/2013 10:51:22 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Cuz it’s got cannons in it. That’s why. :-)

Cannons don’t usually get to do a solo with orchestra.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 10:52:13 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Borges

I always thought it was for the so-called War of 1812, which is now 200 years past and just as appropriate. Big fan of the Rev, but we need to pay more heed to the 2nd war for independence, too. And Baltimore’s defense against the invading Brits is nothing less than astounding. There really should be a celebration for that.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 10:58:38 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Borges
Did the media do a “memory hole” thing again? I’ve never heard of the 1812 Overture being associated with the 4th of July.
7 posted on 07/05/2013 10:59:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Borges

They play it because it’s fun and loud and what more appropriate day to play something fun and loud.

I’m all for exposing more of the masses to classical music by any means possible, so this is good by me.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 10:59:43 AM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Borges
Borodin's "Prince Igor" Overture sounds like the soundtrack for a 1940's Western. At least once it gets to the allegro.

For Independence Day I think we should make Rhapsody in Blue the traditional 4th finale.

12 posted on 07/05/2013 11:05:10 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Borges
It may be relevant to point out that "Russian" does not equate to "Soviet". Seventy plus years of despising, with good reason, the Soviet Evil Empire and the gang of homicidal thugs who ran the country for the better part of the twentieth century sometimes puts a stigma on anything Russian. Even the brilliant music of 19th century composers like Tchaikovsky.

Besides, other than the Star Spangled Banner what piece of music goes so well with the sound of cannon fire?

13 posted on 07/05/2013 11:07:22 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Borges

For once, an answer to a question that I have been asking about for years! Glad to read it and a reason to continue enjoying the “Cannon’s Roar!”


23 posted on 07/05/2013 11:46:10 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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To: Borges

We like the 1812 Overture because it is loud.


26 posted on 07/05/2013 11:49:12 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: Borges

Americans like the 1812 overture on the 4th of July because the composition puts to pure music, without words, the imagery of the scenes sung about in the Star Spangled Banner.

“the twighlight’s last gleaming”

“the dawn’s early light”

“the perilous fight”

“the rockets red glare”

“the bombs bursting in air”

“And [the] “our” [star-spangled] banner in triumph shall wave”

It matters not - to most of us - that the Russian composer wrote the composition in homage to the Russians expelling Napoleon. Without words it “sings” a tune of any great heroic battle, whether our revolutionary battles or others.

Cultural ICONs have a life of their own divorced from their originators; even if just borrowed or adopted by those they speak to in some way.

Maybe in a 100 years, the 1812 Overture will be known globally as “that symphony music Americans play on their Independence Day” more than as “Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture”. Who cares?


28 posted on 07/05/2013 11:55:07 AM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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To: Borges

They play it because it’s fun and loud and what more appropriate day to play something fun and loud.

I’m all for exposing more of the masses to classical music by any means possible, so this is good by me.


31 posted on 07/05/2013 12:08:23 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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"With the exception of 'America the Beautiful,' the U.S. is short of patriotic hymns," says Botstein. "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is a tongue-twister; then you have 'America,' which is really the British national anthem.

I can think of quite a few patriotic hymns:

Even the Communists have a patriotic hymn:


32 posted on 07/05/2013 12:18:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The "1812 Overture" premiered in 1882 at the consecration of a church in Moscow...

The church in question was the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, one of the world's largest houses of worship. In 1931, Joseph Stalin ordered it destroyed to make room for a "Palace of the Soviets," which was never built. You can watch a film of its destruction here

After the Soviet Union fell, the cathedral was rebuilt, with modern facilities such as air conditioning, elevators, telecommunication facilities and underground parking. It reopened in 2000.

34 posted on 07/05/2013 12:30:27 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Borges

Its best when accompanied by howitzers.


37 posted on 07/05/2013 1:04:55 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Borges
As I mentioned on another thread, "Hymn to Red October," a pseudo-Soviet patriotic song, can easily be interpreted as an American patriotic song--the lines about how "in October," our forefathers "reported our victories" and "gave us a new world" could refer to Washington's victory at Yorktown in October, 1781.

Hymn to Red October--Nssil K. Poledouris (1989)

48 posted on 07/05/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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