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To: nikos1121
For example, there has been no "Homo gene." Twin studies, where twins are separated at birth, one is gay the other straight show the same rates of homosexuality, ie. there is not one study that shows a higher percentage of the separated twins being both gay...

And this means what, exactly?

There isn't any scientific evidence to prove that homosexuality is anything other than a mental disorder. Even if it could be proved that people are born that way, that is not evidence that homosexuality is "normal." People are born schizophrenic, autistic, mentally retarded, psychotic, etc., all the time--people also develop pathologic conditions at other stages of life--the circumstances under which the pathology manifested do not determine whether it is normal. Normal behavior is defined as how close to the center of the bell curve a person's specific behavior pattern lies, when compared to the behavior patterns of the population.

We do a great disservice to people with sexually-associated mental illness when we refuse to treat them or to research effective treatments for their conditions. Pretending they are normal doesn't help them at all. I think of poor Chastity Bono, whose illness spiraled out of control to the point where she made herself into a freak show attraction. Her illness should have never been allowed to fester to that point, and is probably still festering.

/off the soapbox

9 posted on 06/28/2013 4:52:47 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
I think of poor Chastity Bono, whose illness spiraled out of control to the point where she made herself into a freak show attraction.

I thought of something similar during all the celebrations among my Facebook friends after the SCOTUS ruling. Gays will still experience much higher rates of "spousal" abuse, will still suffer from much higher rates of depression and suicide, and will still turn to drugs and high-risk sex. They will not know the joys of a stable marriage and children of their own making.

The biggest losers in this cultural shift are gays and those that they recruit to their lifestyle.

13 posted on 06/28/2013 5:24:06 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: exDemMom

Yes. What you say is right.

As a physician and as a heterosexual man, I would say homosexuality does not need to be genetic to be a disease. I liken it to any addictive behavior, because there is a similarity. YOu often see multiple addictions actually.

Maybe environmental. What bothers me is that because the left has blocked any discussion or research in this country...or has undermined churches or clinic therapies that try to help people, people who might be healed are not healed.

In fact, we can all learn from an honest discussion on this.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 9:21:29 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: exDemMom

Excellent post. Chastity Bono, like other mentally ill people, is a product of her environment. If someone thinks Cher is a stable mom, they don’t know Cher.

We won’t fully cure homosexuality until we better understand its epigenetic and environmental causes. How much of it is simply reinforcement or even imprinting?


45 posted on 06/29/2013 2:26:09 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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