Posted on 06/21/2013 7:03:06 PM PDT by Altariel
Tying a dog may or may not make it aggressive- depends on how it is done. If a dog is tied up and neglected then I imagine you are right. If a dog is tied only when the owner cannot directly supervise it and is off the tether most of the time it won’t be aggressive at all. Tying a dog up or kenneling a dog or keeping it any other way are not bad- of course like everything else a bad owner can make it bad.
One compares like with like; comparing two unlike things is neither logically nor intellectually sound.
Go back and reread.
That makes astounding sense!
Until now, my feelings about NOT tying up dogs have been rather abstract.
. condemning all police because of a few idiots (in a group consisting of over 800K members) is just wrong and all I’m trying to say. Yet many here are more than willing to do so. That’s what I find sad.
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Actually what is sad is that the dwindling percentage of good cops absolutely refuse to discipline or hold accountable the bad actors. Somebody up thread nailed it—many today go into law enforcement not “to protect and to serve” but to “rule” and “lord over” the community’s citizens (and, of course, to accrue their pensions).
Well said. :)
Lots of people leave their keys in their cars. Just because "lots of people" do something doesn't automatically mean it's responsible. "Lots of people," may even get away with leaving a dog tied up, their doors unlocked or their keys in the car and never have a problem with it. That still doesn't mean it's the smartest, most prudent or responsible thing to do.
"...it is a responsible thing to do so the dog doesn’t get in trouble; which normally works fine."
How is it more responsible than leaving the animal inside? If you say that the dog might chew things, tear up the house, etc. then I'd refer you back to my contention that the person has not invested the time to train and discipline the dog that they should.
"We don’t know what kind of pet owner this lady is but I don’t agree that tying one out or kenneling one is a bad thing- depends on how it is done."
By my criterion, I do know...she's an irresponsible pet owner. I've had dogs my whole life, and lived in all kind of conditions from a little house on the prairie in White City, Kansas where I could stand on my roof and see nothing but cornfields, to a little apartment in downtown Seoul, and lots of places in between. I've never had the need to tie a dog up outside, unsupervised. I've certainly had to make some sacrifices in my personal life, my daily routine and my social activities, but those go with the territory of responsible dog ownership. If somebody isn't up to it, they shouldn't own a dog. Too many people buy a dog as a fashion or fancy and fail to research and grasp the full implications of what will be required of them. The dogs pay the price.
Again, I guess I need to repeat it here because nobody seems to pay attention to the 30 times I've already stated as much on this thread, this in no way absolves the officer for tasing the dog, but more care could have been taken on the lady's part to protect it.
She may have been at work or running errands. It depends on how accessible her yard is and a lot of other things we don’t know. We don’t know if she is in an area with no neighbors or kids. Thing is she is not the bad guy here, the cop that abused her dog is. Just a few weeks ago a cop killed a man’s dog inside his apartment. No one can directly supervise their dog 24/7 it is not possible. Cops have killed dogs with the owner standing right there so supervision is not the issue when it comes to dogs being harmed or killed by cops.
I agree if you live somewhere where others have access to your dog then it is not safe to tie one out- even stray dogs can come attack it. We don’t know her situation though we do know a cop abused her dog.
No, dear.
It is you who have problems keeping track of what you’ve written.
I replied to ~your~ accusation that she wanted all cops done away with.
In case you have forgotten:
“So, what you are saying is that all cops are a$$holes and we should do away with the concept of a police force.”
You clearly spoke as though she had stated that somewhere.
Might want to watch your petard on the way out.
Just gotta think like a dog, KittenClaws.
:)
If off the tether most of the time, sure, it won’t be aggressive; but, based on my observation, if it’s on it most of the time it definitely will be. So we agree.
T’warn’t nuthin’.
:)
That was like sweet Halla.
Now those I have are like “Wolfen”...;D
Being tied up is really no difference from being fenced in.
dumb evil “sheriff” I hope he gets boils and hemorrhoids
I get that now!
Tied dogs always seemed so aggressive and mean, I just thought of how I would feel if I was tied all of the time, but flight or fight? Never occurred to me.
It makes. Perfect sense!
But, still no reason to tase the poor animal.
I'm really getting tired of repeating myself on this thread.
Again, if I park my car in a bad part of town (or even a good part for that matter), leave the keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked and walk away and somebody comes and steals my car, the person that steals my car is the bad guy. He is not justified in stealing my car. I'm not the bad guy, but I'm still a dumbass for leaving my car vulnerable and unattended.
You have a long litany of things "we do not know" about this situation.
I'll just give you one thing we do know about it.
We know the cop did not go in the house.
It’s the impression I get from all her negative post about cops.
As for watching my petard ... I stand by my comments.
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